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2025 Pertemps Network Final Handicap Hurdle

Ian_Davies said:
I am on The Wallpark ante-post and i'm just hoping it’s the owner's number one hope in this.
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JP hasn’t got anything other than this one in the Stayers I don’t think. I’m hoping the opposite to you and that he’ll be keen to have a runner in a championship race
 
The only horse I've backed antepost well I say antepost but it's NRMB is D'art D'art also backed him on the same terms in the Coral Cup and would rather he go to that race as I've got him at a much bigger price and he'd have a solid chance in either race. Likelihood is he'll end up in this though.
 
29 six-day confirmations....

Monmiral
Franciscan Rock
Thomas Mor
Karl Des Tourelles
Bugise Seagull
Win Some Lose Some
Harbour Lake
Supreme Gift
D Art D Art
Feet Of A Dancer
Lucky Lyreen
Jeriko Du Reponet
Patter Merchant
Henri The Second
Will The Wise
One Big Bange
Super Survivor
J'Ai Froid
Maxi Mac Gold
Shanagh Bob
Doddiethegreat
Catch Him Derry
Guard The Moon
Zain Nights
Idem
Long Draw
Up For Parol
American Sniper
Gold In The Rivers
 
Copied from the longshot thread:

Thomas Mor, 40/1, 5 pl, NRNB - Missed last season, which would have been his second as a novice, but on his final outing the season before he was a good fifth in the Albert Bartlett on decent ground so should have developed into a mid-150s hurdler before going chasing this season. He's reportedly quite a big, strong unit who might well have needed time and it's entirely possible his mark of 143 is still very lenient - he won his qualifier on his seasonal debut off 138 - and probably bounced when debuting over fences a couple of weeks later. He's had plenty of time to recover and could be one of the class horses in the race. As with all these longshots, it isn't costing much to find out.
 
Desert Orchid said:
Copied from the longshot thread:

Thomas Mor, 40/1, 5 pl, NRNB - Missed last season, which would have been his second as a novice, but on his final outing the season before he was a good fifth in the Albert Bartlett on decent ground so should have developed into a mid-150s hurdler before going chasing this season. He's reportedly quite a big, strong unit who might well have needed time and it's entirely possible his mark of 143 is still very lenient - he won his qualifier on his seasonal debut off 138 - and probably bounced when debuting over fences a couple of weeks later. He's had plenty of time to recover and could be one of the class horses in the race. As with all these longshots, it isn't costing much to find out.
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You are an absolute scholar I've had my eye on him for weeks for an each way for exactly the same reasons.
 
Ian_Davies said:
29 six-day confirmations....

Monmiral
Franciscan Rock
Thomas Mor
Karl Des Tourelles
Bugise Seagull
Win Some Lose Some
Harbour Lake
Supreme Gift
D Art D Art
Feet Of A Dancer
Lucky Lyreen
Jeriko Du Reponet
Patter Merchant
Henri The Second
Will The Wise
One Big Bange
Super Survivor
J'Ai Froid
Maxi Mac Gold
Shanagh Bob
Doddiethegreat
Catch Him Derry
Guard The Moon
Zain Nights
Idem
Long Draw
Up For Parol
American Sniper
Gold In The Rivers
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There's 30 including Jipcot ( 25/1), off 131. Trained by Jonjo and AJ, has improved through the season, starting off over 2 miles at Ffos Las behind Lump Sum. Wind surgery and the proximity to a big payday may also have helped. Winners of Pertemps qualifiers have a bad record in the Final so I am pleased he qualified in fourth place at Haydock last month.
 
I think McManus could have won this with The Wallpark, which will be up against it imo in the Stayers' Hurdle.

So maybe he's taken the ante-post favourite out because he thinks he can win this with something else.

I had a good look at Win Some Lose Some, but he's going to have to improve again to defy the hike for his latest win.

And Jeriko Du Reponet looks like another possible Nicky Henderson special.

Beat Lump Sum in the Rossington Main, thought good enough to tackle the Supreme, pulls up on novice chase debut, eye-catching fifth in the Gerry Feilden, then arguable career best when finally stepped up to this sort of trip at Exeter.

And throughout all this, he's stayed on a mark of 135, which is nothing for a horse of his potential.

Might just be another Joyeuse for the Master of Sevenbarrows, leaving everyone else thinking: "why did we even bother?" after it absolutely hoses up.
 
Ian_Davies said:
I think McManus could have won this with The Wallpark, which will be up against it imo in the Stayers' Hurdle.

So maybe he's taken the ante-post favourite out because he thinks he can win this with something else.

I had a good look at Win Some Lose Some, but he's going to have to improve again to defy the hike for his latest win.

And Jeriko Du Reponet looks like another possible Nicky Henderson special.

Beat Lump Sum in the Rossington Main, thought good enough to tackle the Supreme, pulls up on novice chase debut, eye-catching fifth in the Gerry Feilden, then arguable career best when finally stepped up to this sort of trip at Exeter.

And throughout all this, he's stayed on a mark of 135, which is nothing for a horse of his potential.

Might just be another Joyeuse for the Master of Sevenbarrows, leaving everyone else thinking: "why did we even bother?" after it absolutely hoses up.
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Yes, I think it will often pay to look beyond raw handicap numbers, especially at this meeting (as well as the other festivals) and sometimes correctly reading between the lines can give more exhilaration than rolling between the sheets...
 
Exactly, Maurice - no end of horses will look attractively handicapped and priced using academic methods and, while these will throw up nice winners from time to time, they often bump into one that's been laid out for a particular big handicap target.

Nothing wrong with being mindful of this and having a foot in both camps, tbh, pedantry and dogma are seldom a punter's friends.

Final tranche of six-day confirmations today (for Friday), then we get the final decs for Tuesday tomorrow - oh, and there's the live weekend racing too, including the Imperial Cup - can't wait!
 
Idem 2.40 tomorrow 28/1
Caught my eye last time out at Musselburgh.
Finished placed without being given a hard time.
The stable are in form and carries a nice low weight.
 
Inveterate, gutless, bottle merchant that I perennially am, I'm all about protecting what I've got after the first two days

This looks fiendishly-difficult to me, but if forced to choose I'd probably go for D Art D Art.

I like the way he has been campaigned, presumably with this in mind, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him go off clear favourite.
 
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I love this race but don’t have a great record in it. But just look at the prices of the ones at the top of the ratings table. You could argue that if you back any of them you’d be at least getting some value. I’m still looking for first-season novices, then second-season novices and ones that have been working their way back down the weights. From the first category Patter Merchant stands out but Sam Ewing has opted for Lucky Lyreen so that puts me off. Will The Wise is too short for my liking relative to its rating compared to Jeriko Du Reponet which I will be backing which also brings us to the second-season novices. Hendo has a very strong hand with his two. Jeriko Du Reponet had a huge reputation early last season winning a few at long odds-on and was sent off at just 11/1 for the Supreme Hurdle in which he pulled up. His campaign since then has all the Hendo hallmarks of a festival plot. I had thought about the Coral Cup a while back but this might be easier. De Boinville prefers him to Shanagh Bob who was only 7/2 for the G1 3-mile novice hurdle at Aintree last April and, like Jeriko, appears to have been trained for this year’s spring festivals. The other day I took Thomas Mor, 40/1, 5 pl, NRNB. He missed last season, which would have been his second as a novice, but on his final outing the season before he was a good fifth in the Albert Bartlett on decent ground so should have developed into a mid-150s hurdler before going chasing this season. He's reportedly quite a big, strong unit who might well have needed time and it's entirely possible his mark of 143 is still very lenient - he won his qualifier on his seasonal debut off 138 - and probably bounced when debuting over fences a couple of weeks later. He's had plenty of time to recover and could be one of the class horses in the race. As with all these longshots, it isn't costing much to find out. I’ve gone back in at 50/1 to 6 places. I’ll wait until the morning of the race and try and pick off some value on other longshots maybe on the exchange or the Tote.
 


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