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QIPCO British Champions Day

Outsider said:
Arisaig is well drawn in 4 and is as low as 8s.
Absolutely gutted that Oliver show is drawn 2f2.
In the last 10 yrs only Escobar won from a draw higher than 11.
Billy the kid will need a lot of luck.

O'Mearas 3 are all well drawn 3,5,6
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Draw in a race thats normally run on soft ground. Different game this year.
 
My balfolio is complete
Oliver show 33/1
Arisaig 40/1
Theoryofeverything 50/1 and 66/1
Bopedro 50/1
Orandi 33/1 boosted to 40/1
 
Danny said:
Tbf though unless you were in antepost where's the betting edge in the main events ?
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That's fair. I think there's an edge taking on Kalpana who is way unders and I'm gonna have a study of the QE2 as the without fav market for that is embryonic and I want to take on Hannon's and the filly.
 
Id agree with that I've personally never thought she's a proper 12F horse and her good runs over 12F have come off very steady gallops, she does have a decent turn of foot should they go a crawl but she's not going to want the ground as quick as it is plus the quick turnaround from the Arc which was obviously her main target this time around so plenty going against her this time .
 
Ian_Davies said:
No manners, but what a critic.

Here's the thing: I can't see any 40/1 winners in the other five races, in fact I think the five favourites, boringly, might all have favourite's chances.
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Without wanting to dampen your enthusiasm too much. Beat the market you have, find the winner you may not.

Why I've posted that in the style of Yoda God only knows as im not that old, im definitely not that wise and im only a mild shade of green due to the envy of not being on at 40/1.
 
Taken the 5/1 Stay True in the stayers.Only had 4 runs in his life and not given a hard time when Scandiavia had hit the front in the Leger.
Sould be a cracker,for a boar race.
 
Danny said:
Beat the market you have, find the winner you may not.
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Oh, bollocks, I thought if you copped for 40s about an 8/1 poke, you were already weighed in.

Oh well, we live and learn.

Gutted you haven't got the 40s, Daniel.

That said, you know what Gore Vidal once wrote: "It is not enough to succeed. Others must FAIL."

Anyway, I'm planning to combine the other five winners in a multiple for good measure - Field Of Gold is heading towards being a price I'd take a chance at, but I did like what Fallen Angel did in the Sun Chariot.

I wouldn't bet Rosallion with Walsworth's money - that can win without my support.
 
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Ian_Davies said:
Oh, bollocks, I thought if you copped for 40s about an 8/1 poke, you were already weighed in.

Oh well, we live and learn.

Gutted you haven't got the 40s, Daniel.

That said, you know what Gore Vidal once wrote: "It is not enough to succeed. Others must FAIL."

Anyway, I'm planning to combine the other five winners in a multiple for good measure - Field Of Gold is heading towards being a price I'd take a chance at, but I did like what Fallen Angel did in the Sun Chariot.

I wouldn't bet Rosallion with Walsworth's money - that can win without my support.
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Fallen Angel only just got the better of January in a ding dong in the Rothschild at Deauville. At 100s I couldn't resist an ew poke on January.
 
LUKE said:
This is the time of year for strange results.
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Especially with fillies and the fact that most horses are thinking of changing their coats which I feel makes them feel a bit...meh. My greyhound is like this - really goes quiet and off her food when moulting. Once their winter coat is "set" and they are clipped, they seem to be fine.
 
jinnyj said:
Especially with fillies and the fact that most horses are thinking of changing their coats which I feel makes them feel a bit...meh. My greyhound is like this - really goes quiet and off her food when moulting. Once their winter coat is "set" and they are clipped, they seem to be fine.
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Would an inspection of horses in the parade ring pay dividends here, jinny? Look out for the horse looking “well” in their coat, sort of thing?
 
Len Madeiros said:
Would an inspection of horses in the parade ring pay dividends here, jinny? Look out for the horse looking “well” in their coat, sort of thing?
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100% percent. To be fair the ITV girls are quite good at pointing out which have started to "go" in their coats. But if you are paddockside, look for those with nice shiny summer coats. Even better if they still have dapples. If the coat has gone dull and is starting to look hairy or woolly, then I would question backing the individual. You will find that geldings and fillies tend to turn first while some colts don't lose their summer coats at all.
I have this theory that if a horse is putting energy into changing it's coat, it's lacking energy elsewhere.
 
It's Friday evening and it's time for what, lets face it, you've all been waiting for, Your Favourite Uncle Smart Arse's definitive guide to Champions' Day at Ascot tomorrow.

12.55: Trawlerman clocked 4m 15s when winning the Gold Cup, that's 12.75s per furlong. Very few horses truly stay a strongly-run 2m4f on the Flat and he bounced off the ground to pulverise them. Won't be that much slower going tomorrow either. Ridden for stamina again, there is no reason why he shouldn't win.

1.30: Words Of Truth has been uneasy in the betting tonight. The Mill Reef winner faces quicker ground tomorrow and one interpretation of his pedigree suggests it might be an issue. But his sire actually does ok with his progeny on the quick and I still think this colt sets a tough bar for the rest.

2.05: Lazzat ran a few pounds below par at Deauville and, though backed as if defeat was impossible, was possibly undone by the draw at Haydock Park. But if he returns to his course and distance Royal Ascot form all the media aftertimers will be asking how he could ever have been 4/1 and better after he makes short work of this shower.

2.45: Kalpana has done a passable impression of a bridle ponce at times, but I'm not sure anything here can get her off the bit and 3/1 isn't unfair about last year's winner and this year's King George runner up, who didn't run too badly in the Arc.

3.25: Field Of Gold was reported to be lame after disappointing when one of several given too much to do in the Sussex. He's only won against his own age group thus far, but now he's out to 2/1 he's not unfairly priced. But Fallen Angel, circa 10s on the machine just now, is in the form of her life and shouldn't be underestimated.

4.05: Ombudsman, winner over course and distance at Royal Ascot and at York, ought to scupper my burgled 16/1 Delacroix ante-post.

4.40: When Arisaig wins the last, I recommend taking a vacation from the forum as the YFUSA celebrations are long-odds on to reach new levels of narcissistic depravity. Only an act of God can stop her. Cerulean Bay, Bopedro, Bobby Benu and Witch Hunter all have prospects of making the extended places.

Time was when I'd have been there tomorrow and at Kempton Park on Sunday.

This weekend I shall be at neither - I will instead be getting a load of good food and drink in and having back-to-back picnic virtual days at the races within the confines of my Hampshire Fastness.

Good luck tomorrow, everyone!
 
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Ian_Davies said:
It's Friday evening and it's time for what, lets face it, you've all been waiting for, Your Favourite Uncle Smart Arse's definitive guide to Champions' Day at Ascot tomorrow.

12.55: Trawlerman clocked 4m 15s when winning the Gold Cup, that's 12.75s per furlong. Very few horses truly stay a strongly-run 2m4f on the Flat and he bounced off the ground to pulverise them. Won't be that much slower going tomorrow either. Ridden for stamina again, there is no reason why he shouldn't win.

1.30: Words Of Truth has been uneasy in the betting tonight. The Mill Reef winner faces quicker ground tomorrow and one interpretation of his pedigree suggests it might be an issue. But his sire actually does ok with his progeny on the quick and I still think this colt sets a tough bar for the rest.

2.05: Lazzat ran a few pounds below par at Deauville and, though backed as if defeat was impossible, was possibly undone by the draw at Haydock Park. But if he returns to his course and distance Royal Ascot form all the media aftertimers will be asking how he could ever have been 4/1 and better after he makes short work of this shower.

2.45: Kalpana has done a passable impression of a bridle ponce at times, but I'm not sure anything here can get her off the bit and 3/1 isn't unfair about last year's winner and this year's King George runner up, who didn't run too badly in the Arc.

3.25: Field Of Gold was reported to be lame after disappointing when one of several given too much to do in the Sussex. He's only won against his own age group thus far, but now he's out to 2/1 he's not unfairly priced. But Fallen Angel, circa 10s on the machine just now, is in the form of her life and shouldn't be underestimated.

4.05: Ombudsman, winner over course and distance at Royal Ascot and at York, ought to scupper my burgled 16/1 Delacroix ante-post.

4.40: When Arisaig wins the last, I recommend taking a vacation from the forum as the YFUSA celebrations are long-odds on to reach new levels of narcissistic depravity. Only an act of God can stop her. Cerulean Bay, Bopedro, Bobby Benu and Witch Hunter all have prospects of making the extended places.

Time was when I'd have been there tomorrow and at Kempton Park on Sunday.

This weekend I shall be at neither - I will instead be getting a load of good food and drink in and having back-to-back picnic virtual days at the races within the confines of my Hampshire Fastness.

Good luck tomorrow, everyone!
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Outsider said:
What a good days racing in prospect.
Montassib 205
Kalpana 245
Rosalian 325.
Caladagran 405
Oliver show 440

I've also done
No half measures 205 ew 25/1
Fox legacy 405. E/w. 25/1

Good luck all.
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I fancy No Half Measures a bit aswell to prove she's no one hit wonder. It's a horse race, afterall, and she's shown she's more than capable on her day. I think she can get in the shake up.
 
Sprint:
Montassib - ground is fine he'll finish like a rocket. Not the biggest bet I've had this year but not far off. Lazzat is a big danger back here and I've put him in a couple of NBA futures doubles.

Mares:
I dutched Waardah and Estrange for this a few weeks back in the hope that the Longchamp horses wouldn't turn up and that it would be soft ground. Given the make-up of the race now confidence is tempered and I can't really have Estrange now at all but Waardah is solid. I can't have Kalpana - I'm banishing her.

Champion Stakes:
I have rollover going onto Calandagan in this (ironically via Delacroix) but obviously when I placed that and backed him in a single at 7/2 I wasn't really expecting Ombudsman and Delacroix to show up. Magnificent looking race.
 
Run to freedom.2.05
Wirh no standout sprinter in this division and many results contradicting each other Run to freedom may offer some value at 50/1.
Finished 3rd in the July cup .
Small each way for me.
Good luck today everyone 👍🏻
 

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