The Becher Chase

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I’m looking at the Becher Chase on Saturday and wondered who on here fancies what. For me, experience over these fences is what I’m looking for.

I suppose King Turgeon will be favourite and with good reason, as he does seem to be improving and going up in the world but 4/1 looks a little cramped for my taste.

I have soft spot for topweight Chianti Classico, who I noted as a novice and owes me nothing. I think it’s a worry that he’s now a stone or so higher in the ratings than when winning at Cheltenham at last year’s festival. This will be his first try at the fences and he may be vulnerable perched at the top there.

Cause Celebre improved to win last time out and has shown form over the fences behind Arizona Cardinal in the spring. He did, however, run unplaced in this last year and I’m not convinced he’s a stayer over 3m, even though he won a race over that distance last time.

There’s no way last year’s winner Chambard can be discounted, given he’s only 5Lbs higher here and with stable in rude health. I see he’s currently 14/1: that seems way too long.

Persuasion seems to enjoy the fence challenge here and has run well over the course and I’d see him as a possible place horse rather than a winner.

For that dubious privilege, I’m fancying Arizona Cardinal strongly. He improved 17Lbs last term, finishing the campaign with a good victory in the Topham over 2m 5f on the soft. Something went wrong last time out and he’s subsequently had a wind op but this will have been a target, I’m sure. He’s jumped the fences, goes in the ground, the stables’s in excellent form and, crucially, I expect him to improve for the extra yardage here. Only 5Lbs higher than the Topham win so, at the moment, he’ll do for me. 12/1 is a lovely price, anyway.

I’ll probably be having a little of the 14/1 for Chambard, too. He must be a live danger.
 
I think Gaboriot is incredibly solid off of almost bottom weight. Shaped really well in the GS and I think reverses King Turgeon off of this longer trip. It's gonna be bottomless so I wouldn't want to be with those shouldering a lot of weight.
 
Danny put arizona cardinal up on the a/p thread and I had a look at the race and it does look to have a chance so I took 12s boosted to 15/1 with Hills.
So that's extra weight.
Probably do Cruz control as well but he's a bit short.6s
 
You say he'll like the ground Yorick but it may be almost unraceable by off time that would be my only concern. One of his wins at Ludlow last year was down as soft ground but it looked like a ploughed field and he carried 12st through that so I'm hopefully the horse in 2nd that day also won a couple after that in similar conditions to Frank the form a little. This sort of ground usually favours an old mudlark and I doubt we'll see many finishers tbh.
 
Well, Danny, we must hope that both AC and the course manage to cope with the rain that will fall between now and post time.
It’s possible we may see an abandonment, I suppose.
 
If Iron Bridge is going for this rather than The Welsh Grand National (in which he ran very well last year) he’d have a lively chance after his decent run last time out. What’s in Jonjo’s mind is anyone’s guess and I for one have never been able to work him out.
 
If Iron Bridge is going for this rather than The Welsh Grand National (in which he ran very well last year) he’d have a lively chance after his decent run last time out. What’s in Jonjo’s mind is anyone’s guess and I for one have never been able to work him out.
Or, indeed, what's in Iron Bridge's head; he an odd one, I think, who may be having some 'ideas of his own'. He's talented but I'm never sure which horse will turn up, BJ.
 
And, of course, we're not sure what his real target might be. It's possible that another lilt at the Welsh is on the cards and they may not want him here. He's never raced over the fences so it will be informative for all to see how he copes. He ran in the National Trial at Haydock last year and it seems that they think he might be a National horse. My inclination would be to guess that the Welsh is the main aim.

To be honest, there's so little we know; oh to be a fly on the wall when they set their sights for the season, eh?
 
Not long finished my own stuff on the race:

Horse
OR
MON
169
Notes
RPR
BO
Iron Bridge
136
173
p
164
8/1
Major Dundee
131
172
164
16/1
Monte Igueldo
132
169
g
160
33/1
Now Where Or When
131
169
??
148
66/1
Percussion
131
168
v
161
25/1
Chianti Classico
157
166
p nov
161
5/1
Chambard
145
166
163
14/1
Cruz Control
140
165
p nov
162
7/1
King Turgeon
133
164
p jw
161
9/2
Gaboriot
131
164
p
159
9/2
Celebre d'Allen
147
162
v
157
16/1
Arizona Cardinal
142
162
p
159
12/1

Percussion’s usual rider, Adam Wedge, is out of commission but Harry Reed is his usual stand-in on this horse so I’m less inclined to view his previous ride as negatively. In fact, I’m going to double both horses and hope for a 883/1 payout although I’ll happily settle for the 44/1 place portion. It looks like the ground will be heavy given the forecast – it already is heavy on parts of the Grand National course – and I like older horses in these slogs. He has never failed to finish here in five attempts and could win by default if the others don’t take to the test. The first-time visor is of added interest and he had a sighter last time in the Grand Sefton which wouldn’t have been enough of a test for him. The main bet, though, is Iron Bridge given his profile and rating while Monte Igueldo and Now Where Or When look seriously overpriced and worth small each-way pops. It would be no surprise at all if King Turgeon, who did us a nice turn in the Grand Sefton, made all since he jumps so well and has form at the trip and in heavy ground. I’m just reluctant to take 9/2 in this contest.
 
Not long finished my own stuff on the race:

Horse
OR
MON
169
Notes
RPR
BO
Iron Bridge
136
173
p
164
8/1
Major Dundee
131
172
164
16/1
Monte Igueldo
132
169
g
160
33/1
Now Where Or When
131
169
??
148
66/1
Percussion
131
168
v
161
25/1
Chianti Classico
157
166
p nov
161
5/1
Chambard
145
166
163
14/1
Cruz Control
140
165
p nov
162
7/1
King Turgeon
133
164
p jw
161
9/2
Gaboriot
131
164
p
159
9/2
Celebre d'Allen
147
162
v
157
16/1
Arizona Cardinal
142
162
p
159
12/1

Percussion’s usual rider, Adam Wedge, is out of commission but Harry Reed is his usual stand-in on this horse so I’m less inclined to view his previous ride as negatively. In fact, I’m going to double both horses and hope for a 883/1 payout although I’ll happily settle for the 44/1 place portion. It looks like the ground will be heavy given the forecast – it already is heavy on parts of the Grand National course – and I like older horses in these slogs. He has never failed to finish here in five attempts and could win by default if the others don’t take to the test. The first-time visor is of added interest and he had a sighter last time in the Grand Sefton which wouldn’t have been enough of a test for him. The main bet, though, is Iron Bridge given his profile and rating while Monte Igueldo and Now Where Or When look seriously overpriced and worth small each-way pops. It would be no surprise at all if King Turgeon, who did us a nice turn in the Grand Sefton, made all since he jumps so well and has form at the trip and in heavy ground. I’m just reluctant to take 9/2 in this contest.
Yes, Now Where Or When has that form in a graded chase in Ireland against Vanillier from a while ago, which I'm guessing has contributed to your high rating for him?

That was a small runner affair though. Tomorrow will be a different kettle of fish. Like you say though, I've seen a lot worse longshots.

I think I'm in the Chianti Classico camp. That's probably just because I want him to win for my ten to follow!

Lets hope this meeting goes ahead anyway.
 
I'd be more concerned about 68mph gusts of wind forecast.
Yeah, I see what you mean. If the forecast windspeed of 60mph appears, then racing won't go ahead, will it. Quite apart from the safety of the racing, there will also be travel disruption for connections and the racegoers.

I can't see it taking place, can you?
 
I’ve just had two weather warnings through to my phone...that’s never happened before!
 
I’ve just had two weather warnings through to my phone...that’s never happened before!
I'm concerned that there'll be a few non runners due to travelling, ruining the ante post bets earlier in the week.

I've backed one ante post going from Wales to Aintree. I think that says it all.

I hope they abandon nice and early tomorrow if that's the way it's going.

We don't want 7 inspections before racetime and all that sort of thing.
 
Off as is Chepstow. Wetherby goes ahead and Sandown holding a second inspection.
 
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