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Ante-Post Props 2025 Flat

Euronymous

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The flat really started today for me with the Classic trials. It was noticeable how poorly the boys in blue faired at Newbury and I think Romantic Style is an even money shot worth taking on in the Abernant on Wednesday and I've taken a bit of 5/1 about the master trainer's Sajir who had bits of pieces of nice form in and around 6f last year and has had the benefit of a run this season in France.
 
The flat really started today for me with the Classic trials. It was noticeable how poorly the boys in blue faired at Newbury and I think Romantic Style is an even money shot worth taking on in the Abernant on Wednesday and I've taken a bit of 5/1 about the master trainer's Sajir who had bits of pieces of nice form in and around 6f last year and has had the benefit of a run this season in France.
Thanks, Euro - took 5/1 myself.
 
The flat really started today for me with the Classic trials. It was noticeable how poorly the boys in blue faired at Newbury and I think Romantic Style is an even money shot worth taking on in the Abernant on Wednesday and I've taken a bit of 5/1 about the master trainer's Sajir who had bits of pieces of nice form in and around 6f last year and has had the benefit of a run this season in France.
Cracking stuff - well done.
 
In the Craven,Wimbledon Hawk tanked from his outside draw,whereas the winner (also took a grip) was able to be buried out the back until threading is way through to Guineas fovoratism.
However, in last season's Royal Lodge (c/d) though uncomfortable on the soft ground,he prevailed given more cover.
66/1 (Sky) underestimates his chance in the big one,so I've taken some.
 
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In the Craven,Wimbledon Hawk tanked from his outside draw,whereas the winner (also took a grip) was able to be buried out the back until threading is way through to Guineas fovoratism.
However, in last season's Royal Lodge (c/d) though uncomfortable on the soft ground,he prevailed given more cover.
66/1 (Sky) underestimates his chance in the big one,so I've taken some.
3rd in th Futurity,too.

26Oct24

Wimbledon Hawkeye was lost in the ground. He showed his heart and how good he is in the way he battled on to finish third. James said it's a lot softer here today than it was at Newmarket. He was struggling in it but he's a lovely horse for next year. I'm thrilled to be here mixing it with the top and he's done us proud - James Owen, trainer.
 
In the Craven,Wimbledon Hawk tanked from his outside draw,whereas the winner (also took a grip) was able to be buried out the back until threading is way through to Guineas fovoratism.
However, in last season's Royal Lodge (c/d) though uncomfortable on the soft ground,he prevailed given more cover.
66/1 (Sky) underestimates his chance in the big one,so I've taken some.
I like it.
 
Couple of cracking looking races at Sandown next Friday. Can't really see an angle in the Gordon Richards but in the Mile race we have prices all over the shop. Best odds:

Dancing Gemini 3/1
Tamfana 7/2
Haatem 4/1
Alcantor and Lead Artist 5/1
See the Fire 7/1

No surprise I'm going with the master trainer again. Dancing Gemini won the same race at Donny Charyn did last year but I don't get the same vibes off him and Tamfana is carrying a hefty Group 1 penalty for this. Alcantor needs to step forward on last year's form but he's race fit and Ryan Moore has been booked. I would fear Lead Artist but that's about it.
 
I love attending that Sandown Park meeting and it often throws up horses who go on to better things in virtually all the races.

I saw Live In The Dream, Mostahdaf, Alcohol Free, Westover, Emily Upjohn, Al Qareem and Giavellotto on the 2022 card.
 
It seems as if some entries are out for the handicaps at Royal Ascot.
I can see them for the Wokingham and Royal Hunt Cup at least.

If anyone's got nothing better to do. :)
 
Nice. I've been looking at the Ascot ante-post lists recently and there's not a lot of meat on the bone. The only bet I've placed is Inisherin in the Jubilee. I don't get why he's as big as 8/1 when he ran really well to win at York last week and Ascot suits him much better.
 
The entries are indeed out for the Royal Hunt Cup and the Wokingham - ditto the Northumberland Plate.

But I'll be waiting for the weights to be released for them before starting threads on each.

Just the 311 entries in the three contests combined - if The Fortune Teller thinks I'm ploughing through that lot before the weights are even out, he needs a new crystal ball. 😂
 
Nice. I've been looking at the Ascot ante-post lists recently and there's not a lot of meat on the bone. The only bet I've placed is Inisherin in the Jubilee. I don't get why he's as big as 8/1 when he ran really well to win at York last week and Ascot suits him much better.
Archie Watson has a 2yo making its debut today at Ayr. Underwriter in the 2.30.
I had a look at his price for the Coventry ( hoping to get a bit of an edge ).
12s 🤣. No thanks.
 
Only 8s now, yet you could've got 15/8 for todays tin pot race.. Trainers record in the Coventry during his short training career, hasn't gone unnoticed.
 
Nice. I've been looking at the Ascot ante-post lists recently and there's not a lot of meat on the bone. The only bet I've placed is Inisherin in the Jubilee. I don't get why he's as big as 8/1 when he ran really well to win at York last week and Ascot suits him much better.
Just took 25/1 Haatem for the Queen Anne as he'll likely be shorter after tomorrow's stroll in the park at Longchamp.
 
A bet at 15/8 today and then re-investing the entire winning return at 8/1 nets out at almost 25/1 the manifest related-contingency manual double.

If he couldn't win today it was unlikely he'd win the Coventry and I often think that's a better strategy.
 
I'm not getting the market for the SJP - surely with FoG and Cosmic Year engaged tomorrow at the Curragh Jonquil seems the likeliest to take in the Ascot race and yet he's longer than both his Juddmonte buddies at 10/1.
 
I'm not getting the market for the SJP - surely with FoG and Cosmic Year engaged tomorrow at the Curragh Jonquil seems the likeliest to take in the Ascot race and yet he's longer than both his Juddmonte buddies at 10/1.
My take would be he's unlikely to stay the stiff Ascot mile - judged on his sprint entries.
 
Royal Ascot (Tuesday)

King Charles-American Affair

Though beaten on Saturday in the Temple, thought the sprinter didn’t get the best ride and can see the Royal race playing to his strength of passing horses in true run races

Each Way @ 40-1 (Bet 365)
 
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I've just taken 33/1 Estrange for the Arc.

Today's win at Haydock doesn't amount to Arc-winning form but she was mightily impressive and is very lightly raced so potentially loads more to come.
 
Like that bet, she was so impressive and the likely ground will suit her.

I've been looking at the Ascot markets and I've taken 6/1 and some 7.4 about Anmaat for the PoW. He travelled all over the field at the Curragh last week and I feel Ascot's short straight won't suit Los Angeles so I'm hopeful over a reverse. I also can't remember a horse winning this race first time out (stand to be corrected on this) so Economics? Can't have him really.

I was covering a shift in a Ladbrokes in Blackpool yesterday and saw a QandA in the post with Mr Segal and he's very keen on Lake Forest for the Queen Anne. I just assumed he'd be going for the Jubilee so I didn't even consider him when I took some 6s and 13/2 about Notable Speech for the race but he is very interesting if he goes, could be a mile is his trip. Worth a go at 16s.
 
Copied from the longshot thread:

I've just taken 33/1 Estrange for the Arc.

Today's win at Haydock doesn't amount to Arc-winning form but she was mightily impressive and is very lightly raced so potentially loads more to come.
She travelled very well yesterday .If she was mine -Lancashire Oaks,Vermeille,Arc.
 


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