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The 2025 Coral Gold Cup (Handicap Chase)

The rain forecast for Saturday morning would not favour Hyland or Riskintheground. I quite like The Changing Man (9/1) at this stage. He finished 2nd to Myretown in last March's Ultima Handicap Chase at Cheltenham, but is twelve pounds better off and has had a run this season. His overall record suggests he may be difficult to win with ( also second in the Rehearsal Chase and the Great Yorkshire Chase ).

Victtorino ( 16/1) ran an odd race in this race last season. Jumped slowly and adrift early on, but ran on strongly to finish third. Stable is back in form.
 
There's definitely an home team bias on this board the super powers of Irish trainers send a battalion over for this and I dont think anyone's give them a mention.

C'mon Slim lad set us straight. I take it back think Yoricks given a positive mention to one.
 
Ian_Davies said:
Your Favourite Uncle Smart Arse has decided finding the mere winner (Pic Roc) of this contest is too easy, so will be delivering the Tricast before post time.
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YFUSA was going to wait until post time, but has decided to produce now.

Pic Roc, Panic Attack, Three Card Brag and The Changing Man are the quartet for those Tricast combinations.

There is absolutely no need to thank YFUSA for this - he's all about helping first-time Point-to-Point racegoer transvestites fund a suitably-green ensemble ready to grace the bank at Chaddesley Corbett over Yuletide.
 
Pity that, because I'm warming to the chances of Montys Star. With the possible exception of the favourite. I think there's sone badly handicapped horses here. Monty isn't one of them though. Humping 12st around in bad ground would be a real test.
Waiting to see what the weather does.
 
Desert Orchid said:
I thought it was "Give Way"...
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The particular part of the A339 to which I refer is the Hampshire to Berkshire corridor which connects chez moi with Newbury racecourse, taking in Kingsclere along the way.

In point of fact, it's a dry sunny (for Scottish people, who can't stop banging on about Celtic when Folkestone Invicta are so much more interesting - if you've had a bet on them, that is - that's the big yellow thing up in the sky) day here but, as others have rightly said, significant rain overnight and into tomorrow is odds-on to be on its way.

I'm not sure that will help that Canford Cliffs mare get home, tbh, so my Big Race exotics might yet need a tweak.
 
I decided to have a wee dig into this race on Tuesday (hoping that my figures work out). The Best Odds (BO) are as they were then so probably bordering on meaningless now. I've shaded the column with my own ratings to help identify it. Those highlighted in bold green are the second-season novices, very much my preferred type for this race.

The synopsis underneath was also written on Tuesday but I haven't really re-thought much since backing Myretown on Wednesday.

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This has the potential to be an absolute cracker. I’m already on Pic Roc at 33/1 and 40/1 and Katate Dori at 16/1 but I’ll maybe add one or two more once I’ve had the chance to figure out what might actually happen. I’m looking at the likes of The Changing Man and Annual Invictus, if it’s ready, as markers for the race but they could run to form and not finish in the first six. I’ve highlighted in bold green the second-season novices as I’m reasonably confident one of them will win but Inch House will probably need to carry a saver just in case Nicholls can get it back to the good form it showed for Jonjo O’Neill three seasons back as a novice. Nicholls did it with one that ran at Cheltenham a couple of weeks ago. It ran well but didn’t win. It will be interesting to see if my big ratings for Hyland and Katate Dori are proved right. They were first and second in the big 3-mile handicap chase at Kempton in February in ground that was a kind of ‘normal’ good to soft but they were strung out like washing on an elastic line at the end. A lot of good horses didn’t finish the race that day and the ATR pace maps show that the finish was pedestrian after a very fast early pace. One of the front runner that day was the well fancied Lowry’s Bar and I can see him taking a big step forward off a more judicial pace but I’m genuinely unsure of the reliability of the form.

Anything rated over 148 will surely not want to blow a lenient Grand National mark, though, so I’m looking at those with ORs of 147 (Victtorino) and below on ORs. That confirms a lot of my better ratings so I’ll wait and see how the final field looks on Thursday before deciding any further.

*Not long after writing that I took 5/1 Myretown in the possible realisation that it might be a good thing. It’s the only one, apart from top-weight Monty’s Star, noted in the RP as having a ‘possible’ Gold Cup entry so they must think it is a 160+ horse.
 
Like Maurice I took 16/1 karate dori. But I think Myretown should win this.
A couple more I've done are
Victtorino and O'Moore park
My 5th choice is the changing man.

What a race in prospect.I could have done 10 easily.
Myretown hasn't had a recent run and only 5 chase runs (negative stats)
Victtorino hasn't had a recent run like last year.and has had 20 chase starts (neg)
O'moore Park hasn't won a chase.or only one (neg)
But basically I haven't a clue.
 
Apart from the redoubtable Outsider, there hasn't been nearly enough use of the term "Corfolio" on this thread.

YFUSA is gravely displeased with almost all of you.

YFUSA's quartet isn't so much a "Corfolio" as the first four home and if anyone knows where he can do a Quadcast and a Quadfecta, YFUSA would appreciate it.

As stated on the opening post of this thread, Pic Roc wins it and, to put you all in the mood, here's Bregawn winning it in 1982 @ 9/4, which is just as well as YFUSA had his autumn term university grant on the beast at 6/1 ante-post and Bregawn almost gave YFUSA a coronary at the age of 19 at the last:
 
Ian_Davies said:
Apart from the redoubtable Outsider, there hasn't been nearly enough use of the term "Corfolio" on this thread.

YFUSA is gravely displeased with almost all of you.

YFUSA's quartet isn't so much a "Corfolio" as the first four home and if anyone knows where he can do a Quadcast and a Quadfecta, YFUSA would appreciate it.

As stated on the opening post of this thread, Pic Roc wins it and, to put you all in the mood, here's Bregawn winning it in 1982 @ 9/4, which is just as well as YFUSA had his autumn term university grant on the beast at 6/1 ante-post and Bregawn almost gave YFUSA a coronary at the age of 19 at the last:
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Peter O: " ... class is gonna win it ... "
 
Robicheaux said:
Pity that, because I'm warming to the chances of Montys Star. With the possible exception of the favourite. I think there's sone badly handicapped horses here. Monty isn't one of them though. Humping 12st around in bad ground would be a real test.
Waiting to see what the weather does.
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Surely getting handicapper for the National but against that he will enjoy the drop in class and will be well suited to Newbury.
 
Going on trends/stats
The Doyen chief is the one.
Fails on being off 137 but is actually now rated 140.
6 chase runs
Finished 2nd last time
Only 10.8lb
Has won over 3m on soft.
 

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