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  1. J

    Speed Figure calculation and usage

    I find it useful to express sectionals as finishing speed from the sectional, calculated as follows: (T*d*100)/(t*D) Where T is the overall time, d is the distance of the closing sectional, t is the time of the closing sectional and D is the overall distance. So that an 8-furlong race run in...
  2. J

    Speed Figure calculation and usage

    The amount of energy used is not the same as the time taken. Is it the latter that is being referred to here? That is what I use.
  3. J

    Forum horse connections

    Thanks, Krizon. Next race may be the Buck House Stakes on the Friday of Royal Ascot or the Scurry Cup at the Curragh on Irish Derby day (though the temptation to try to nick a race - any race - at one of the gaffes is getting stronger).
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    Forum horse connections

    One Way Or Another is proving to be an unlucky horse at the moment: hampered and then nearly came down, after which his jockey immediately eased him off. He seemed absolutely fine afterwards and should be out again before long. Just hoping that things can start going his way again soon...
  5. J

    Forum horse connections

    One Way Or Another runs in the 4:05 at Newmarket. No real explanation for his poor run at Ascot, for all that the race did not pan out as we had hoped. Sometimes they just run poorly. He is fit and well, and the race, in which there looks likely to be lots of pace, should suit him.
  6. J

    Speed Figure calculation and usage

    Errrr, it looks rather good. In fact it looks uncannily good compared to other races on the day, though I have a similar going allowance for the following day, when the times make more sense. I would go for 92 on One Good Emperor, when a standard form rating would be something like 85. I...
  7. J

    Speed Figure calculation and usage

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  8. J

    Speed Figure calculation and usage

    Well, clearly he could have run the same time, by running in precisely the same way. A horse's pace does not have to be dictated by the pace of others around it, though that is often the case to some degree. In terms of adjusting overall times in line with sectionals, you would need a great...
  9. J

    Speed Figure calculation and usage

    The actual time is constant in that it is the time that the horse in question recorded - period - whatever that time might be. That is the basis of analysis of overall race times. How that time was arrived at is another matter entirely. It can happen in a vast number of ways and is something I...
  10. J

    Speed Figure calculation and usage

    I use the same ratings scale as Timeform (it's what I have been used to since I was a nipper). Timeform predated BHA and RP by a long time and are not about to alter their level because others have come along since and pitched theirs differently. My older ratings are about 8 > than BHA, 3yos at...
  11. J

    Speed Figure calculation and usage

    I had Canford Cliffs on a tfig of 123, but only by taking the 1m races in isolation (and my ratings are 6 higher than official for 3yos). I looked into doing standard times properly for Ireland a few years back but gave up on account of so much inaccurate information. It could be done, but it...
  12. J

    Speed Figure calculation and usage

    No-one has asked me why the midpoint is used. Perhaps it is obvious. It is used because the pounds per length/second for the actual time and the standard time will be different, though usually only slightly. As you are trying to quantify the poundage of a time that may start at 3.00 lb/l and end...
  13. J

    Speed Figure calculation and usage

    Sorry, had major unplanned outage which BT took an age to sort. I wrote some guidelines to time analysis on Betfair some time ago which were similar to those used in the short-lived (and not greatly missed) The Sportsman and which have been adopted by a major form service abroad. The series had...
  14. J

    The 2000 Guineas (and beyond)

    On day one, with a blank sheet, you assess the ability that the horses showed as you would whenever you have a blank sheet. You are not guided by some crude assumption of how well or how fast the winners will have run irrespective of the circumstances. As I have said, I think this is a...
  15. J

    The 2000 Guineas (and beyond)

    Apologies. I thought you were speaking specifically about CLASS pars, and made that clear in my answer. Most people I know call "standard times" just that. I cannot follow what point you were trying to make by conflating standard times with class pars. The two are very different.
  16. J

    Oops...

    It sounds crazy, but, having watched the race again, I have plenty of sympathy with the stewards (for once). The jockey, presumably embarrassed by the fact that he had dropped his whip leaving the stalls, proceeds to do a very passable simulation of someone really getting stuck into his mount...
  17. J

    The 2000 Guineas (and beyond)

    Anyway, perhaps this is a discussion for another thread. For my part, I doubted that Canford Cliffs could run above low-120s at a mile and I was wrong. I thought it was a most authoritative performance - backed up by the clock, to a greater or lesser degree :cool: - and would take him in a...
  18. J

    The 2000 Guineas (and beyond)

    "How fast a race should be run" before the event is rendered irrelevant by "how fast the winner should have run" after it, when the winner might have won by 10 lengths, a nose, in a 20-runner field or in a field severely depleted by non-runners. If we are agreed that the ability of a horse is...
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