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I do admire the success you've had/have with your approach, which I've seen for real, cos it's so contrary to mine and it would take a massive effort on my part to try and learn that approach

Some patter about these races I can understand and I get more involved with them elsewhere for that reason cos it can trigger worthwhile ideas, but I still wouldn't do any more than interest/tv bets on most of them cos I'm not that into big field hcaps for betting

Well I'll let others follow 'traditions' of handing over money to bookies due to vainly trying to crack races like this, and I'll keep my money and pick my battles

Don't get why people get fixated on races like this, when there's far more beatables ones, it's just one race

I've now got the French group2 races in my trial race cross reference db, to go with the group1s aready there, I wanted to have the group3 and listed as well but too much real life job stuff prevented that. Anyway here's the trial race stats for the Arc

Between the current top 2 in the market Minnie Hauk and Aventure, the latter has the better record on softer going, especially at 1m4f. But it's just one race, and some backers seem to end up with a lot riding on one race result, that's not my thing and I never get hung up on finding the winner...

I've been to the races a couple of times with a guy who kept horses himself and he would watch them closely in the parade ring, from which he seem to glean a lot. Plus there's been plenty times I've watched the betting market change as the runners enter the parade ring, so it's obviously a...

just don't back fkn winners !! 😉

Yeah but bookmaker behaviour, at least tacitly supported by the gov, will mean a reduction in interest in the sport & ergo viewing figures If one of the dobbins with a mic even made the comment on a steamer that early backers could now lay that off for a guaranteed profit/green book, I'd think...

The main appeal for what I would bet is a majority is the betting. But if the word on street is that bookies will ban you & ask for more details than a mortgage application before handing over your winnings then it will continue to decline until that changes or it withers to more like point to...

Well done @Ian_Davies & @Outsider & any others, that was a top shout. I think Chally Chute was very unlucky not to get a run a few yards sooner.

Too open for me but here's some prev winners info

Pah im not a short arse like him. Still annoyed we won't have wolverhampton to bet on in the evening this time.

once that's in place you can control where people go and what they do, then add in a social credit score

Ffs take a holiday from yourself Obviously Patrick , and anyone else looking at it remotely seriously, looks further than that, but the fact that the OR being quoted for HK is such a weak kpi compared to the UK is interesting. Is the assessment just sub optimal or are other factors the reason?

I've had a look at Hong Kong data re the OR's quoted on the RP site vs GB and IRE

This year a room on Sat 15th for 250 (some a lot lot more) is 50 on the monday 17th, just means with that and tickets and travel you are looking over 400 before you get to gambling , drinking and eating. Did it last year with Danny, luckily the gambling paid for it and then some, had the added...

I like the Nov meeting, the accomodation prices being about 4x their normal rate not so much

Overhyped and overpriced, keep it