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handicap jiggery pockery though is apparantely clever and thought shrewd as far as many punters are concerned..they think having a 160 hoss win off 140 is clever..when in fact its what our bin cleaner could pull off..or anyone with 3 brain cells come to that..but apparently its "smart" ffs..you...

if i gave a trainer a 160 horse and best he could do was win a handicap off 140..i'd kick him so hard in the bollox and tell everyone what a usless cnt he was..or have i missed something? its a bit like giving someone 60k and they give you 20k back..and like some lemming punters say..ooh you...

you mean..he will have to cheat to win? well he ain't very good then..in fact those that cheat the most...are the real worse trainers in reality..shitbags imo oneill is fookin rancid imo..for one..and 100% useless..the only punters that will support such as oneill are utter halfwits imo..then...

i can't name the thread now Grass,,but i do remember you saying.."but does it make profit"..on one one of my shitey threads....i wouldn't lie..but i did put it in boring, sad, old arsehole's memory bank which would have needed electro magnetic pulse action to spark back into life:)..which i got...

you are the king of stating the obvious that others miss Granger..you go up in my estimation each week..you an astute guy,,your post will go over many heads as did the last pearl you churned out..top stuff man,, the ability to concisley put forth common sense..wish i had that quality

apart from that..i like him:)

so you take a top horse and get it to win off 140..fookin hell..we will be givin credit for it as well i suppose if he pulls it off..i do hope Joseph isn't going to join Jonjo as the shittiest trainer of all time..what a shame for the horse and those sad fooks who think being **** at your job is...

you joke..but the transition between 4 and 5 ia learning curve..you cannot pigeon hole a horse ratings wise to be able to make that negative assertion at just 4 going on 5 there is nobody on here or in the outer..(supposed knowledge..but actually get by on bullshit mainly..easy money for those...

on one of his learning races..he is only horse to look like beating that hearthrob of yours Grass on his beloved home turf ..as a novice..no one will know now..pure guesswork

but when i start a thread..first thing you want to know is..does it make a profit to me if you sh1t at day to day..then your chance of being right in 4 weeks time is fook all minus you yourself have quoted the money aspect on threads i have started..but now it don't matter?..its no use being...

pick out the best chase tomorrow..anaylse it in detail..and lay or back what your judgement tells you..over a period of months..if you any good..you will be up..if you not..then picking a race 4 weeks in future is unlikely to fatten your bank balance

arbers are the worse in this game..they lack commitment and have only one testicle,,either take a view or get off the pot would be my view..its like..well i have half a clue about this game..so will play..no..fook off ..you won't survive anyway without an ultimate view

i think a 4yo winning TH needs at least a stone of improvement...and even then,,winning TH tells me they are a stayer not speed hoss..obviously i'm generalising here what surprised about IG was his run at Aintree after Cheltenham..clearly different jobs re race challenge..but there is...

will check this out Fonz..thanks

did they miss a 0 off DG? no wonder bookies are rich..well those with massive houses and holidays in bahamas...and gigs on rubbish like ML....clearly i don't mean those that lose the lot and have now had to get enough tattoes to be accepted into Grimsby

i accept they not machines,,thats it really..many horses have issues,,,then later come back..its like altior..if he wasn't a honest going forward type..then we might be discussing his demise i don't know anyone that 100% spots horses that stay sound and continue the brilliance..its not possible...

time passing soon heals though:)

bullet point handicapping works..get into it G..its good stuff..i do it everyday with every handicap chases..surprising how it focuses the head..its a simple but effective way of finding wins or lays i'll post a few up over the coming days with bread and butter fare..which is really the best...

your list isn't explaining the sudden bomb out of IG though....it really is like a different animal since TH..he has been exceptionally underwhelming..proper speak for.."absolute shite"..since then

i had him as awesome before the TH...the two wins before that told me he was decent..as in TH winner..which worked out great..then total shite