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  1. NumberCruncher

    Spreads, System(atic) Betting & Staking Plans

    Thanks for the support simmo. There's no danger of me giving up, I'm in for the long haul and fully expect to make a loss overall from this first attempt - though it would be nice to make the floor rise a little first! Once I have more data I'll explore some of the other markets as well...
  2. NumberCruncher

    Spreads, System(atic) Betting & Staking Plans

    A better strike rate yesterday, but still a losing day. Banks now stand at: RFSP £389.79 / Normal £389.96 / Level Stakes £389.92. Liability for each today will be RFSP £10.51 / Normal £9.75 / Level £10.00 Is anyone running a book yet on whether I’ll hit the circuit breaker before being able...
  3. NumberCruncher

    Spreads, System(atic) Betting & Staking Plans

    Glad that at least one of the selections appears to make sense :) At the moment I'm treating these as system selections, so if the relevant criteria apply, then its a bet. Ultimately I may need to move to a systematic approach where the criteria creates a short list, and then I review further...
  4. NumberCruncher

    Spreads, System(atic) Betting & Staking Plans

    A couple more from Newcastle 17.45 - Pals Batallion / Mondammej - Sell @ 0.25 18.15 - Tasever / Paris Lights - Buy @ 1.5 List for Newcastle is mainly against the field
  5. NumberCruncher

    Spreads, System(atic) Betting & Staking Plans

    Just one from spreads published so far. 13.52 Arika / Soames Forsyte - buy @ 1.5 In case anyone wants to test the theory on whether they can predict one horse beating another, the full list I copied early today is below. Spreads will have changed since, I backed Arika at 1.5 and the spread...
  6. NumberCruncher

    Spreads, System(atic) Betting & Staking Plans

    Not exactly the start I was looking for, but it does mean that I’ll be able to immediately show the difference between the 3 staking plans. For the first day, all 3 have a liability (equal to a fixed odds stake) of £10, and the calculated stakes per length and returns will also have been the...
  7. NumberCruncher

    Spreads, System(atic) Betting & Staking Plans

    I'll post a bit more about the rising floor staking plan once I have a few days selections to refer to. Just to give an example to start, I've produced the results of the Class 4-6 handicaps that fall into my selection criteria. Don't get caught up in the numbers, they're bound to be good as...
  8. NumberCruncher

    Spreads, System(atic) Betting & Staking Plans

    Thanks walsworth. I didn't actually post on the Massey forum, but yes Maria did take it over. Any profits here will depend on the quality and consistency of the ratings, and that I have no control over! One more for today, 20.00 Wolverhampton - Amaysmont / Autumn Rose - Buy at 1.00 (Sporting...
  9. NumberCruncher

    Spreads, System(atic) Betting & Staking Plans

    Todays selections are: Lingfield 12.30 - Frankies Dream / Sunny Time - Buy @ 1.5 (Sporting Index) 15.00 - Aneedah Hero / Perfect Parole - Sell @ -0.5 (Sporting Index) 16.00 - Masqool / Time Tested - Buy @ 1.75 (Sporting Index) Same spreads are available at Spreadex
  10. NumberCruncher

    Spreads, System(atic) Betting & Staking Plans

    Records now fully updated and I have a target area identified. I'm basically monitoring a range of selection criteria and differences in values for specific data items and calculations. This chart shows the number ranges down the side, and the classes across the top. The area highlighted...
  11. NumberCruncher

    Spreads, System(atic) Betting & Staking Plans

    Sounds like our paths may have crossed before, I was posting as Snipes to a couple of forums between 2005 and 2010. I did subscribe to Rob's ratings in 2009, but couldn't face the prospect of starting completely from scratch when Adrian stopped producing his ratings. The kids were quite young...
  12. NumberCruncher

    Spreads, System(atic) Betting & Staking Plans

    First, why use the spread markets? One of the major reasons is you can both back (buy) and lay (sell). They make (most of) their money from the spread in the middle and need to attract people on both sides to produce a balanced book. They offer the usual win and place markets (100 and 50...
  13. NumberCruncher

    Spreads, System(atic) Betting & Staking Plans

    Adrian Massey’s site provided access to all the historic ratings, so it was relatively easy to apply a set of criteria to a wide range of races and work out if the process would have been successful over those years. I haven’t got that with the new ratings, so my sample size to work with is very...
  14. NumberCruncher

    Spreads, System(atic) Betting & Staking Plans

    System(atic) Betting My theory is that those of us with little knowledge of horse racing should be able to use rating services to produce a short list of candidates for backing. I did something similar with the Adrian Massey ratings around 20 years ago, and while it wasn’t consistent enough to...
  15. NumberCruncher

    Spreads, System(atic) Betting & Staking Plans

    I’ve been enjoying reading the various threads here for while, but my lack of knowledge of horse racing prevents me from contributing. So thought I’d start a new thread on something I do know about to see if there is wider interest in it. My aim is simply to produce a profitable system...
  16. NumberCruncher

    What are you backing Today? Part 2

    I'll start a thread at the weekend for these spreadbets so that I can provide a bit more of an explanation. I'll include details of the Rising Floor staking plan as well which will probably be of interest to some. Today I have: 13.03 Newcastle - Star Chorus / Blinky - Sell @ -0.25 Sporting...
  17. NumberCruncher

    What are you backing Today? Part 2

    I wish it did return that. With these matchbets you are effectively reducing every race to just 2 horses, so most bets will be odds-on. For Starfighter, although the distance was 16.75 lengths, the maximum for all weather is 12 lengths, so my bet closed at 12 giving a profit of 8.75 lengths...
  18. NumberCruncher

    What are you backing Today? Part 2

    19.30 Wolverhampton - Alfheim / Dark Mystery - Sell @ 0.00 Sporting Index
  19. NumberCruncher

    What are you backing Today? Part 2

    20.00 Wolverhampton - Starfighter / Muhalhel - Buy @ 3.25 Sporting Index
  20. NumberCruncher

    What are you backing Today? Part 2

    You do need to be careful with the different markets in spreadbetting, a lot of them are open ended, but matchbets have defined minimums and maximums. For National Hunt the limits are +/- 15 lengths and for Flat and All Weather, it is +/- 12 lengths. For my bet, if Jeffreys Cross pulls up, the...
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