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Think he's pointing now.

What's the big deal with owning a car and ageing??? I bought my first car at 17 and have had one pretty much ever since, with the exception of a few months living in Gibraltar when I didn't need one - did buy one in the end though as I needed to get to Spain.

Regal Entrance did not survive.

The qualifications for hunter chases are much the same for point to points, bar that professional trainers can also run horses assuming they've qualified. Hunter chasers have to a) hold a hunter's certificate - earned (ahem) in the same way that they are for pointing, ie horse has to have...

Frankel looked burly yesterday and Cecil certainly left something to work on. He was also surprisingly relaxed in the preliminaries and going to post. I was impressed given that he will undoubtedly come on a lot for the run.

Sorry Sonhgsheet, I thought I recalled you saying that the deal surrounding the horse with Dunlop involved paying no training fees. Grey - I hadn't clocked you saying you agreed in disqualifying horses in cases of whip abuse, apologies, I know you own horses. Bloodnok - it is absolutely...

I meant to add him a while ago, a horse called Master Act, trained by Alistair Whillans. He's a half brother to Rainbow Peak and he is the reason I started following Ranbow Peak from his debut at Kempton onwards. Master Act has run twice in soft ground (bordering on heavy) bumpers oop north...

So bloody what, Cantoris? Sam Waley-Cohen had no say whatsoever in being born to well-off parents, the same as your Sam Smith had no choice if he were born to Paddy the Plasterer. His parents could afford to buy him decent horses to ride, so what? What is your point?? Songsheet is right...

G-G -cast your eye over who holds which opinion. I'm sure it's no coincidence that those banging on about how winners must be disqualified if the jockey is found guilty of whip abuse don't or have not owned racehorses, nor have they had to fork out for the colossal bills nor endure the...

Not even remotely. I'd have Waley-Cohen ride one of my horses any day over Lens Thornton, or Farmer Tizzard for that matter.

Please let's not forget that even if a jockey breaks the whip rules and gets banned - or in this imaginary scenario put across here that the horse is disqualified - the owner STILL has to pay the jockey's riding fee. Same scenario if the jockey completely buggers up and ignores riding...

Lough Derg has got Big Buck's off the bridle, Grassy.

I agree totally with G-G (!!!) on this one. Owners pay fortunes to keep their horses in training and it is patently unfair to penalise them - and the trainer and stable staff - by disqualifying a horse because a jockey breaks the rules. Jockeys tend to be a law unto themselves and it is more...

Connections stated before the National that they were going to retire Royal Rosa after his run.

Drever at his best would have given him a race and most probably out-battled him.

Then fine the jockeys as well as ban them - by disqualifying the horse you are penalising the horse's owner/s, trainer and the stable lads, all because a jockey had a rush of blood ti the head. As such it is the jockey alone that should receive the punishment for any whip offences, in my opinion.

I'm not disputing the ban given to Maguire Songsheet, there's no excuses can be made for that. Miesque : horses may be able to feel a fly landing on their skin but they have thick skin - people wrongly compare the thickness of our skin and how it would feel hitting us when using the argument...

Sorry cannot agree at all Kri - I am very much opposed to all talk of banning the whip. It IS needed for corrective reasons and IMO there is nothing wrong with horses receiving a few slaps of the whip, they've a hide like a rhino remember, and use of the whip doesn't often - and isn't intended...

Oh God and I'd hoped that the talk I'd heard that he was in a bad way was just conjecture. I know it sounds twee but come on people, Peter Toole needs our prayers right now.

No, jockeyship full stop. I'm fed up of reading the "Long Run can't win the King George/Gold Cup...with Waley Cohen in the saddle" crap. Well, he can, and he did! Not only that, he nearly won the Grand National as well.