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What is really sad, is that Manorson who won the race after the fancied runners fell, broke down after the race and has had to be put down. Always had dodgy legs... I wonder would he have been PU if the others hadn't fallen? - or not pushed out so far? The whole subject is a bit of a mares'...

Cheers Gal - a very good piece and gets better with re-reading! Much food for thought

Correct Trudi - Apparently Sixteen was 2nd A post there says: " A bit slow RP the first five are Tiumen, Sixteen,Numero Due,Mandarino and Pocci. Lucky Nellerie ran out at the 6th. Not sure of the others I think Super Lord was the best of the british runners " Long Run belongs to the...

Vale Of York just ran today at San Sirio in the G1 Grand Criterium, and didn't win, so will he go now for the RPT? The RP doesn't have the result up yet from the BF racecard it looked as if he might have been 2nd - it was hard to follow as almost nil liquidity Xtension is the 2yr old I'm most...

Cheers - I thought not. I can't see her beating STS if they ran against each other It's a great shame Rachel Alexander won't be there - she is the yardstick imo

Impressive and she is certainly a very scopey and robust looking individual - towered over her rivals unless that was a trick of the camera. But has she beaten the colts yet? - or was than another fillies-only race last night? PS That's a very interesting article Gal, who wrote it? I'm half...

Neither Kauto nor Denman is very old - they should still be at their peak, and considering both will have light campaigns I can't see past them at all, provided they get there in one piece - and stand up in the race. Anything else would have to be a terrific price for a place before I'd back it

From the other thread - Sixteen wins for the 3rd time (although the 'winner' was disqualified last time for taking the wrong route, which certainly did gain several lengths so Sixteen won on merit) It's extraordinary that the multiple winners in recent years have both been mares Sixteen is a...

Sixteen is really something! Looking forward to seeing the race It looks from following the BF page as if Long Run has won the G3 Chase

Surely the point is that he might have had a different career path with another kind of trainer. PCH is reputed to push his 2yr olds very hard indeed, and that can compromise not only their soundness but also their appetite for the game. I would agree with Sheikh that WW is worth a try and if he...

Royal indeed, certainly worth following! Please do keep us informed inc if he's due to run

I didn't count, was just wondering if that might have been a reason for what someone else seemed to think was a difference in the postings here as compared with other forums. Irish NH racing doesn't seem to be as subject to PC attitudes / PR-led "modernisation" as UK racing.

If he'd been managed differently he might even have trained on! :lol: We'll never know. He might make a good sire of sprinters, if not he will presumably not last long in the current climate

Your words not mine mate! I'm pretty agnostic on the question on welfare grounds, being a bit of an 'old romantic' where NH is concerned - but the PR of the decision makes sense. I doubt that the 'animal rights' loonies have such a say in things over the water. They have a lot of influence over...

Like TRF, the folks on FF are maqinly for the new Rule. I wonder if TH having a slightly different take on this is due to Irish attitudes still being more gung-ho? - we have a heavily Irish membership here. I agree the BHA has done this for PR reasons, poss more than for horse welfare reasons...

Yeah, I think that was Ogden's first year with flat horses, but he has a few now - maybe he's so old he now feels he wants to see results more quickly, and maybe like other NH owners he got despondent aobut injuries and losses Anyone know who bought the sister to Frozen Fire which went through...

At least now everyone will know where they stand, and owners or trainers won't get arsey with jockeys either way. Years ago horses were remounted almost automatically - which resulted in some fine old tales! - but horses are both speedier and more fragile now and races are run at a more...

But might that have had something to do with the rest of the field not playing along with Ballydoyle tactics and ignoring the pacemakers, who were presumably there to set a strong oeverall pace for F&G? The tactics backfired however as Soumillon got to the 'front' behind them and then slowed the...

I thought she had a poor walk - hind legs didn't stretch far forward, it looked quite scratchy to my untutored eye compared eg to the sister of Frozen Fire which went through just befoe her (fecthed 260K). I revised my estimate severely downwards anyway, when she came into the ring, though it...

Way to go Steve! We've all had our mad punting moments Win or lose I envy anyone who was there on the day, memories to treasure for a lifetime