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Try this line next time you have a meeting with your boss. He's doing it for you lot, not the money.

Christmas time mistletoe and wine and singing frogs ? Holy **** !

This kind of thing is going to happen as long as keeping horses in training is not sustainable. The prize money is shite . The bookies are killing it.

You have proved to be a man of great integrity. So who is it ?

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If he needs someone to risk their life to keep his Mrs happy I'll volunteer .Im sure my Mrs wouldn't mind when I explain that its an act of charity

Very possibly. The winner did not gain or participate in that. Battle of M doesn't look a great stayer Libertarian may always catch the eye running on over that trip at the top level. He needs longer to be at his best. On a different note, Bolgers genetics company said DA couldn't stay so...

There are good reasons for those superior horses being beaten by their inferiors, trip, precocity , luck in running, the course etc. Having watched the race a few times now, a few observations. DA bolted pretty much straight away, no dastardly Ballydoyle plan required. Libertarian fell down...

why the hell did he hold up talent for that matter

interesting comments from the jocks .DA lit up after 100 yards.

Hmmmm............. still don't think your comparing like with like. The horses you named all had a minimum of 3 races before the Derby and all except Pour Moi ran in the Guineas first (He had 2 runs at 2 and 2 at 3 before the Derby) Most of them, bar the great Nijinsky and Seathestars did not...

I don 't disagree with your analysis of the race but I don't think it gives a fair representation of the performance produced by a horse that had only raced twice before (and not tested) to win the Derby. Your examples of previous winners who would have 'eat him' all had more experience and...

I am sure your research and what ever analysis others do on here has lots of merit in telling the story of this race. However my feeling on the animal Ruler of the World is that today was the first time he has actually had a race. He was pure green at Chester imo. Some took it as an ordinary...

we'll see, backed ruler for the arc before the Derby

DA was lit up from the start. The best horse won. The third tier trainer did a good job with the 2nd horse.

sweet.

He has also tipped Ruler of the World (who I like for it) and Ocovango. Ye gotta stay to win it. :-)

Thanks Chaps, great result for me, have a winning mare by Peintre Celebre too :-)

Talent E/w, by tthe sire of the moment, her form is n't spectacular but the further they go the better she'll be.

Forgot about this, mine is called Sir John Hawkins and has already won, yahoo.