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I would like to see Romantic Warrior and Ka Ying Rising in some group races over here Generally speaking horses coming from HK pattern races do better than those heading to HK from UK/IRE/FRA pattern races I.e. those coming from the Sha Tin Hong Kong Vase Flat Stakes 1m 4f Group1, do well at...

Can safely say the dec gold cup winner would have been almost my last choice

Did you ask where it derived it's info from? cos unless you feed chatgpt, claude etc your own quality data they're basically a very fancy internet search , aggregator & summariser I once went down the route of trying to determine 'similar' courses via data mining and stats by looking at say...

did you ask it how it came to that conclusion?

I have Giavellotto top of my ratings but not a strong top. Goliath will get a saver bet. However I'm going to have a place only bet on rank outsider Moments in Time (forgive the prev stupid typo) as the jockey rating I show on my card is purely course stats based and Hugh Bowman is streaks...

Here's the trial/pointer/pathway stats for the Vase

In March I posted a comparison of UK, IRE and HK re OR's and PRB2 here. https://talkinghorses.co.uk/forums/threads/some-stats.84702/post-2696753

4 group 1's on Sunday at Sha Tin :) 2025/12/14 610 SHA TIN (HK) Longines Hong Kong Vase (Group 1) (3yo+) (Course A) (Turf) 3yo+ 2025/12/14 650 SHA TIN (HK) Longines Hong Kong Sprint (Group 1) (3yo+)...

you seem 'quite' sure......

Thing is nature abhors a vacuum, so if there is gap in the market for an actual real horse racing bookie, perhaps it might get filled.

Replied in "Is there any good bookies"

Replied to this thread as it's more apt I imagine the bigger bookies don't care what punters are betting on, all they're concerned about is turnover,volume,margin,expenses & bottom line profit i.e. like any other business. It's easy to see how they'd rather have punters on fobts, cartoon...

I wonder if bookies will focus on horse racing more as that has been hit least by the tax rises imposed by Rachel in accounts

I actually have the same lack of interest in them , unless I can gain some insight into what they do that's at all useful to me.

I'm sure not all syndicates work the same or do all those things, especially depending upon their size or location, but the internet search just brought back the same stuff I'd read in articles/interviews re Hong Kong syndicates, an interview of Tony Bloom I'd read, plus stuff a guy I know who...

Here's the past King George winners and their 3 runs leading up to the race.

For something I posted elsewhere I noticed that 2016 was the last time a runner from King George VI went on to win the Gold Cup in March

As syndicates seem like they are ran as a business with a terms of reference and people work within defined roles & responsibilities. Is there an aspect of how they work that I have missed in that set of bullet points?

would be interested to know what you can add to : Key Characteristics and Structure *Pooled Resources: Members contribute funds to a shared "pot," which provides the capital to place larger, more impactful wagers. *Centralised Management: An organiser or "syndicate manager" is usually...