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We may have to agree to disagree till Saturday - I, like others, think the Group 3 Dunboyne Express won is very unreliable form. Casamento has form against top horses and won a Group 2 very easily.

I still don't get your point about prices - he hasn't been running in handicaps but maybe I'm mistaken in that you think his is a betting stable?

Why would what he thinks affect a price in a Group 2? The horse was a red hot favourite anyway, and whether the price is shorter or longer than it should be is irrelevant. Every trainer will 'let' every horse go off at bigger odds than it should. I don't see how a trainer can affect the betting in a Group 2 - if he came out and said he thinks he's a machine, I wouldn't bat an eyelid.

[QUOTE="Hamm, post: 2261828, member: 65416"] We may have to agree to disagree till Saturday - I, like others, think the Group 3 Dunboyne Express won is very unreliable form. Casamento has form against top horses and won a Group 2 very easily. I still don't get your point about prices - he hasn't been running in handicaps but maybe I'm mistaken in that you think his is a betting stable? Why would what he thinks affect a price in a Group 2? The horse was a red hot favourite anyway, and whether the price is shorter or longer than it should be is irrelevant. Every trainer will 'let' every horse go off at bigger odds than it should. I don't see how a trainer can affect the betting in a Group 2 - if he came out and said he thinks he's a machine, I wouldn't bat an eyelid. [/QUOTE]

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