A touch or black type?

Colin Phillips

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You have a horse with a rating of 85 and he thought to be capable to running to a mark of 100.

What do you do, go for a touch in a nice handicap or try to bag some black type?

There was one of these running today, no prize but lots of 'brownie points' for the name of the horse I am talking about.
 
You go for a handicap of course. You'll only be rated 85 once either way. It doesn't bare thinking to be honest.
 
You have a horse with a rating of 85 and he thought to be capable to running to a mark of 100.

What do you do, go for a touch in a nice handicap or try to bag some black type?

There was one of these running today, no prize but lots of 'brownie points' for the name of the horse I am talking about.

western aristocrat?

would go..handicap..then black type:cool:
 
You go for the touch when he was rated 75 before you ran him in a listed race the time before! Better off targeting good class handicaps where the prize money is better. Listed race that March On Beetroot ran in today worth £17k to the winner. 3-y-o 6f handicap at Newmarket today worth £27k to the winner. Also a natural progression to the even more valuable 3-y-o 6f handicaps at the Charity meeting at York and July meeting.

As it is, he's split 98-rated rivals, giving them weight and will go up the best part of a stone. If he were a filly I could understand it, but not with a colt.
 
David claims the points.

I have to credit the spot to a former poster on here, who sometimes looks in and would give me a bollocking even though he's a very long way away, wouldn't you Chris?
 
I don't care if it's a filly or colt - you have to go for the touch first and then black-type. These opportunities rarely present themselves and must be taken advantage of. There are not too many horses recently handicapped at 85 that are capable of a performance over 100.

If you have a flat horse in the 50's in Ireland it needs to be able to run to almost 70 to win a 47-65 handicap....if you get my drift.
 
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If you have a trainer who's good at landing a touch then go for it - if not put it in a 5 horse listed race and pick up the blacktype (if it's a filly) and if a colt or gelding move it to a gambling trainer.

There's more people trying to land a touch than you'd know - sadly most of them aren't much good at it.
 
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