All Time Ratings

Official ratings only came in about 30 years ago so any such list would probably only be available via the likes of Timeform and would be their own figures, which in turn would leave them open to debate.

Some people believe Roberto was a better horse than Brigadier Gerard. Can you imagine that?
 
From an Article in the Guardian so unsure how correct it is, seems to be some big gaps in the list from the likes of Arkle and Flyingbolt down to Mill House etc.

The best chasers

1 Arkle 212

Towered over his contemporaries in chasing's golden era of the 1960s

2 Flyingbolt 210

The forgotten great, denied a chance to face Arkle because a stablemate

3 Mill House 191

England's No1, unfortunate to bump into the incomparable Arkle

4 Desert Orchid 187

His will to win made him the most popular horse since Red Rum's era

5 Dunkirk 186

Supreme two-miler, killed in the 1965 King George Chase which Arkle won

6= Moscow Flyer 184

Two-mile champion and joint-top chaser of the decade with Kauto Star

6= Burrough Hill Lad 184

Gold Cup hero and champion chaser for three seasons in the mid-1980s

6= Kauto Star 184

King George and Gold Cup winner with potential to reach the top five ...
 
(Bar the Bull @ Nov 28 2005, 02:42 PM)
Highest Timeform Annual Ratings (Jumps - Hurdlers)
182 Night Nurse
180 Istabraq, Monksfield
179 Persian War
178 Comedy of Errors, Le Sauvignon
177 Lanzarote, Limestone Lad
176 Bird's Nest, Bula, Golden Cygnet
175 Baracouda, Gaye Brief, Salmon Spray, Sea Pigeon

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And Golden Cygnet was still a novice when he died in a fall at Ayr.
 
Here is the all time list, originally from the RP (I think) in partnership with Timeform.

145
Sea Bird (1962)

144
Secretariat (1970)

143
Ribot (1952)
Brigadier Gerard (1968)

142
Hyperion (1930)
Tudor Minstrel (1944)
Citation (1945)

141
Bayardo (1906)
Pharis (1936)
Mill Reef (1968)
Seattle Slew (1974)
Spectacular Bid (1976)

140
Native Dancer (1950)
Vaguely Noble (1965)
Nijinsky (1967)
Affirmed (1975)
Shergar (1978)
Dancing Brave (1983)
Dubai Millennium (1996)

139
Hurry On (1913)
Man O' War (1917)
Brantome (1931)
Windsor Lad (1932)
Abernant (1946)
Pappa Fourway (1952)
Alydar (1975)
Reference Point (1984)
Peintre Celebre (1994)

138
Fairway (1925)
Nearco (1935)
Alycidon (1945)
Swaps (1952)
Star of India (1953)
Exbury (1959)
Forego (1970)
Alleged (1974)
Dr Fager (1976)
Generous (1988)
Cigar (1990)
Celtic Swing (1992)
Daylami (1994)

137
Tom Fool (1949)
Pinza (1950)
Princely Gift (1951)
Never Say Die (1951)
Right Boy (1954)
Molvedo (1958)
Ragusa (1960)
Reliance (1962)
Buckpasser (1963)
Damascus (1964)
Kelso (1967)
Rheingold (1969)
Apalachee (1971)
Grundy (1972)
Troy (1976)
Nashua (1982)
Zilzal (1986)
Mark of Esteem (1993)
Montjeu (1996)
Moorestyle (1977)
Sunday Silence (1986)
Easy Goer (1986)
Dayjur (1987)

136
My Babu (1945)
Black Tarquin (1945)
Tantieme (1947)
Hafiz (1952)
Crepello (1954)
Ballymoss (1954)
Alcide (1955)
Texana (1955)
Herbager (1956)
Floribunda (1958)
Relko (1960)
Allez France (1970)
Thatch (1970)
Bustino (1971)
Northjet (1977)
Habibti (1980)
El Gran Senor (1981)
Slip Anchor (1982)
Bering (1983)
Warning (1985)
Old Vic (1986)
Suave Dancer (1988)
Gentlemen (1992)
Helissio (1993)
El Condor Pasa (1995)
Sakhee (1997)
 
Martin, I don't think there are any horses missing from that list.

As it has been mentioned on here before, it's amazing that those three, Arkle, FB and MH were all around at, basically, the same time.
 
Originally posted by Ted@Feb 11 2008, 03:30 PM
I can guarantee you that both Brigadier Gerard and Tudor Minstrel were rated 144 at their best by timeform.
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They were, and Ribot was on 142. I think the ratings quoted are from a book Tony Morris and John Randall did. I seem to remember them incorporating American horses into it.
 
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