Another Place To Play.

There will be NO rules on my forum

I used to run a forum with a similar goal. It's a lovely idea in theory, but it doesn't work once you hit a certain size of membership.

That said, best of luck Mark!
 
Ah - eventually the motive.

Nice lead in Mark - hope your multi tasking wife and troubling family have fun over there.
 
ok, I've removed your post from the top but will reply and quote it below

May I thank everyone who gave me support in my last thread,

To the others, Water under the bridge and all that, we are on this earth for a "good time" not a long time.

I have now my own racing forum, it was constructed in minutes, I literally mean minutes, I take no credit, my wife is a very compitent web site constructer and she built it for me in the time it would take for me to make a pot of tea.

I would like to make it very clear from the "off" in no way am I in competition to "Talking Horses" My forum is not a better place to play simply a different place to play.

Well I'm sorry but it is competition, if it were not then you wouldn't have set a racing forum up. It's like me setting up a perfume shop next door to Boot's, handing leaflets out in their shop and putting posts up on their walls, and saying I'm not their competition.

I would also add, the forum at present is very basic, no members, no activity but this comes with time, we all love our racing, so, my forum will simply be another option.

ok, but not by advertising on here

Our pride, as some of you may know is our web site relating to aviculture, (Parrot and Parrot type birds) we give advice, we are rated number one in all the search engines, students who are studying aviculture at university are directed to our web site, our site has been years in the making and we are very proud of it.

www.afabirds.org/
is that it?

I seem to have stayed a little from the subject matter, you are ALL welcome to join our forum (I am of course refering to the racing forum) I have no malice, I am not a spiteful or sour person.

Nor am I but I must say your motives seem pretty strange considering the thread that has been going on recently. However if you want members, you will have to get them some other way. I'm sure you can get your site to number one in the search rankings and that will get plenty of members

There will be NO rules on my forum, I only ask people to be polite and if you are having a discussion and cannot agree, simply agree to disagree, naturally there will be "Spats" but this is part of the internet wether I like it or not is purely academic.

I hope you know libel laws well, no rules will not work. Like it or not rules are part of life. What will you do if (for example) someone posts a libellous comment on your board, and you as the board owner get taken to court over it? Thats just one example of many I could use.
When I started this board, hardly anything was moderated, and to be honest, it is still very rare anything is deleted or edited. Things have tightened up recently, but there are reasons for that. However no moderation at all does not work, and thats something you will find out if your board becomes successful. Unfortunately the bigger the site/board gets, the more times you have to edit/delete posts. This is the busiest horse racing forum I know of, and apart from the odd time, there is very little moderation goes on here, which is surprising!
If you are that sure this forum is too heavily moderated and has too many rules (of which there aren't many) please show me some racing forums that are as busy, with less rules/moderation. By busy I mean number of posts/topics a day rather then members.

So, to finalise my post, may I once again state you are ALL welcome even if only to have a look around, And, may I add, I am not too proud a person to not take advice, any suggestions would be most welcome, I am a tiny minnow in a very large lake and you lot are the sharks (I am meaning this to be humorous)

I have removed the URL as firstly you didn't have the decency to ask me if you could post it, and secondly if you had look through the posts, you would find that I allow them in sigs, nothing else. Unfortunately due to you posting here first I'm not going to allow you to advertise your site at all on here.

I know you said you didn't realise you had to ask, but if you set up a rival board, what's aim is to do exactly what this one does, surely common sense and decency would suggest that asking first might be polite?

In case you think I am scared of competition, I'm not, other memebrs have forums, and they have links in their sigs, the difference being, they asked!
 
Originally posted by dvds2000@Jun 9 2005, 09:56 PM
ok, I've removed your post from the top but will reply and quote it below

Fair comment, I did say if you didn't agree with the post to delete it.

Well I'm sorry but it is competition, if it were not then you wouldn't have set a racing forum up. It's like me setting up a perfume shop next door to Boot's, handing leaflets out in their shop and putting posts up on their walls, and saying I'm not their competition.

I simply don't see it that way, but we are all different, it's just offering people a variety.


No, don't know whose website that is.

Nor am I but I must say your motives seem pretty strange considering the thread that has been going on recently. However if you want members, you will have to get them some other way. I'm sure you can get your site to number one in the search rankings and that will get plenty of members

No motives involved, strange or otherwise. Already submitted into search engines but thanks for the advice.

I hope you know libel laws well, no rules will not work. Like it or not rules are part of life. What will you do if (for example) someone posts a libellous comment on your board, and you as the board owner get taken to court over it? Thats just one example of many I could use.

Rules may well be a part of life and I have to accept them - in life - but it is often how those rules are enforced and how fairly.

I have removed the URL as firstly you didn't have the decency to ask me if you could post it, and secondly if you had look through the posts, you would find that I allow them in sigs, nothing else. Unfortunately due to you posting here first I'm not going to allow you to advertise your site at all on here.

Fair enough like I said earlier. I did PM you once PDJ asked if I had got permission from you and told you if it wasn't allowed and you had a problem with it to delete the post, I can't be fairer than that once the post was made.
 
I simply don't see it that way, but we are all different, it's just offering people a variety.

A variety of what? What does your forum offer that differs to this one?

No, don't know whose website that is.

I searched for aviculture on google and that was the number one in the rankings?

Rules may well be a part of life and I have to accept them - in life - but it is often how those rules are enforced and how fairly.

I agree but you didn't say that - you said you would have no rules

Fair enough like I said earlier. I did PM you once PDJ asked if I had got permission from you and told you if it wasn't allowed and you had a problem with it to delete the post, I can't be fairer than that once the post was made.

It's tha fact you posted it before you PM'd me I have a problem with, not that you posted it. You could have edited your post while you awaited my reply.

Are you going to show me a board as busy as this one without rules or moderation?
 
Originally posted by dvds2000@Jun 9 2005, 10:54 PM
A variety of what? What does your forum offer that differs to this one?

I searched for aviculture on google and that was the number one in the rankings?

I agree but you didn't say that - you said you would have no rules

Are you going to show me a board as busy as this one without rules or moderation?
A variety of people, views, opinions without the censorship.

If you had searched google UK for "Parrot advice and information" you would have found the website, Aviculture relates to all bird species, not solely parrots.

There won't be any rules, not in the sense of suspending members for disagreeing or having a spat, editing or moderating posts. Adults should be mature enough to sort problems out without having someone to do it for them.

What's so important about having a busy board? Surely quantity is not as important as quality. You can have less active forums on any topic, it doesn't make them less enjoyable.
 
Jesus Christ, every second thread on here now is about as hormonal as my ex when she couldn't find a bar of chocolate when the time of the month came around,

Davenport Milenium anyone?
 
Originally posted by mark@Jun 9 2005, 11:16 PM
There won't be any rules, not in the sense of suspending members for disagreeing or having a spat, editing or moderating posts. Adults should be mature enough to sort problems out without having someone to do it for them.

What's so important about having a busy board? Surely quantity is not as important as quality. You can have less active forums on any topic, it doesn't make them less enjoyable.
Yes adults should be mature enough to do what you say, but not everyone is. Are you having a rule where everyone has to be a mature responsible adult? What happens if you get a 16 year old joing who's sole intention is to cause trouble?

Regarding the busy board, I am trying to point out that it is impossible to run a busy board without some kind of rules and moderation. On smaller boards it is possible as when you only have a small group of members there tends not to be any trouble, the bigger it gets, the more trouble you get!

The reason I asked you to show me another board is that you seem to be implying that this board is very heavily moderated and has too many rules. I am just asking you to back that up by showing even one example of a board as busy with no moderation or rules. You have to compare like with like. The only racing forum I know of that comes close to being as busy as here is TRF and if you think this forum is heavily moderated you want to have a look over there!
 
An Cappall has it absolutely spot on.

In my opinion there is only one thing worse than going out of your way to take everyone for complete fools, which is blatantly the case on this thread, and that is to have the bareface cheek to start the thread he did a few days ago essentially trying to pre-farm contributors for his new site by complaining about an unfriendly clique.

You set it up in the last couple of days on a whim did you Mark. Yeah right, what an asshole!
 
Just a quick question on the same subject as my hearing is going these days. Did Mark say he had a Parrot Site or did he say he was parrotsite!
 
Originally posted by Maruco@Jun 10 2005, 01:54 PM
An Cappall has it absolutely spot on.

In my opinion there is only one thing worse than going out of your way to take everyone for complete fools, which is blatantly the case on this thread, and that is to have the bareface cheek to start the thread he did a few days ago essentially trying to pre-farm contributors for his new site by complaining about an unfriendly clique.

You set it up in the last couple of days on a whim did you Mark. Yeah right, what an asshole!
Believe what you will, the thread I started a few days ago was not to pre-farm members as you say, That thread was started on Monday June 6th therefore if I had the intention of farming members I could have simply sent a PM or email to anyone on any racing forum and invited them.

The forum I set up was not created until Thursday June 9th - here is the confirmation email from the host, with of course the forum link removed.

----- Original Message -----
From: <phpbbadmin@
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 6:16 AM
Subject: [Forumer] Free phpBB forum is ready


> Your free phpBB forum has been setup for you at:
>
> http://*********.com/

> Good Luck with your forum,
 
Originally posted by mark@Jun 10 2005, 08:23 PM
Believe what you will, the thread I started a few days ago was not to pre-farm members as you say, That thread was started on Monday June 6th therefore if I had the intention of farming members I could have simply sent a PM or email to anyone on any racing forum and invited them.
For which you would have been instantly banned for - not only from this forum but any other you tried it on, as did happen today with someone and they were banned from at least 2 forums that I know of

But spamming members is ok I suppose on your forum as you don't have any rules?
 
I suggest we go over join up - say it is cold and unfriendly and recommend here - which will of course be perfectly permissible over there
 
Originally posted by dvds2000@Jun 10 2005, 09:36 PM
But spamming members is ok I suppose on your forum as you don't have any rules?
I have not spammed any members on this site, not by PM or email, to get new members I simply advertise. I stated in my previous post "if I had the intention of farming members I could have simply sent a PM or email to anyone on any racing forum and invited them" - I did not say I had done this, and for the record I haven't.
 
You seem to be very selective with your quoting. I don't think anyone reading my post would have thought I meant you had spammed anyone, seeing as I neither said or implied that you had!

From your post complaining about all the 'bad' things about this forum, I got the impression you thought you had valid complaints, but I'm starting to think you are just trolling, as you hardly ever answer any question you are asked. You even quoted one above and didn't answer it!
 
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