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On the second point - this only exists in yours and Icebreakers heads. Nowhere else.

On the first point, what is wrong with pushing the agenda of a people who you think are being oppressed? Nothing - except that you disagree with the assessment of whether or not they are oppressed.

[QUOTE="simmo, post: 2543529, member: 65084"] On the second point - this only exists in yours and Icebreakers heads. Nowhere else. On the first point, what is wrong with pushing the agenda of a people who you think are being oppressed? Nothing - except that you disagree with the assessment of whether or not they are oppressed. [/QUOTE]

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