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That might be true to some extent, but I think Labour are being unfairly maligned here. The post poll, polling is limited to Ashcroft for now, but there's a few inconsistencies

We're told that the Scots are strong supporters of 'Remain' and yet 36% of SNP supporters appear to have voted for 'Leave'. This is pretty much identical to the 37% who voted leave amongst Labour, yet the post result narrative surrounding the two parties is completely different. If you want a nationalist comparator, then Plaid Cymru fared best of the UK parliamentary parties with just 25% voting for leave, an 11% stronger showing than the Scots Nats (I assume this might be evidence of Scots seeking to use the EU referendum as a vehicle to force another independence vote?) as they should have shown a similar pattern to the Plaid.

The other party who have escaped lightly are the Liberal Democrats. They let us not forget, are supposed to be vehmently pro-European party and yet 30% of them voted to leave. The counter-balance to the Liberals would of course be UKIP, 96% of them voted to leave (4% actually voted to remain!). Were we not entitled to expect the Liberal Democrats to generate a figure at least comparable to Plaid Cymru's as a bare minimum, and in all likelihood something in the region of between 7%-15%

http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2016/06/how-the-united-kingdom-voted-and-why/

<blockquote data-quote="Warbler" data-source="post: 2543594" data-attributes="member: 65228">That might be true to some extent, but I think Labour are being unfairly maligned here. The post poll, polling is limited to Ashcroft for now, but there&#039;s a few inconsistenciesWe&#039;re told that the Scots are strong supporters of &#039;Remain&#039; and yet 36% of SNP supporters appear to have voted for &#039;Leave&#039;. This is pretty much identical to the 37% who voted leave amongst Labour, yet the post result narrative surrounding the two parties is completely different. If you want a nationalist comparator, then Plaid Cymru fared best of the UK parliamentary parties with just 25% voting for leave, an 11% stronger showing than the Scots Nats (I assume this might be evidence of Scots seeking to use the EU referendum as a vehicle to force another independence vote?) as they should have shown a similar pattern to the Plaid.&nbsp; The other party who have escaped lightly are the Liberal Democrats. They let us not forget, are supposed to be vehmently pro-European party and yet 30% of them voted to leave. The counter-balance to the Liberals would of course be UKIP, 96% of them voted to leave (4% actually voted to remain!). Were we not entitled to expect the Liberal Democrats to generate a figure at least comparable to Plaid Cymru&#039;s as a bare minimum, and in all likelihood something in the region of between 7%-15%<a href="http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2016/06/how-the-united-kingdom-voted-and-why/" target="_blank">http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2016/06/how-the-united-kingdom-voted-and-why/</a></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Warbler, post: 2543594, member: 65228"] That might be true to some extent, but I think Labour are being unfairly maligned here. The post poll, polling is limited to Ashcroft for now, but there's a few inconsistencies We're told that the Scots are strong supporters of 'Remain' and yet 36% of SNP supporters appear to have voted for 'Leave'. This is pretty much identical to the 37% who voted leave amongst Labour, yet the post result narrative surrounding the two parties is completely different. If you want a nationalist comparator, then Plaid Cymru fared best of the UK parliamentary parties with just 25% voting for leave, an 11% stronger showing than the Scots Nats (I assume this might be evidence of Scots seeking to use the EU referendum as a vehicle to force another independence vote?) as they should have shown a similar pattern to the Plaid. The other party who have escaped lightly are the Liberal Democrats. They let us not forget, are supposed to be vehmently pro-European party and yet 30% of them voted to leave. The counter-balance to the Liberals would of course be UKIP, 96% of them voted to leave (4% actually voted to remain!). Were we not entitled to expect the Liberal Democrats to generate a figure at least comparable to Plaid Cymru's as a bare minimum, and in all likelihood something in the region of between 7%-15% [URL]http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2016/06/how-the-united-kingdom-voted-and-why/[/URL] [/QUOTE]

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