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I admit I'm never comfortable relying on RPRs for foreign racing so I tend not to. My point was that since Indomito couldn't do much in handicaps in Dubai off 105 there has to be a question mark over whether the 110 he got on RPRs for his most recent run was correct. The lines with Side Glance suggest it might have been on this occasion.

Whether Side Glance is better than 113 is another matter. I didn't have my figures to hand when watching the race but my first instinct was that Frankel had just hammered a 116 horse. It was when I checked back through my ratings I saw I had him on 113. ORs tend to yoyo a bit over the season so his 115 was obviously revised back down at some point.

I agree about Windsor Palace but his 4-length inferiority to Side Glance puts him on 104, exactly the same as his OR. I was temtped to rate the race via him but would have ended up with the exact same figures. If the OR underrates him then you could into account the in-running comment that he was slowly into stride and niggled along most of the way - not the ideal scenario for running to its best form.

<blockquote data-quote="Desert Orchid" data-source="post: 2399719" data-attributes="member: 65242">I admit I&#039;m never comfortable relying on RPRs for foreign racing so I tend not to. My point was that since Indomito couldn&#039;t do much in handicaps in Dubai off 105 there has to be a question mark over whether the 110 he got on RPRs for his most recent run was correct. The lines with Side Glance suggest it might have been on this occasion.&nbsp;Whether Side Glance is better than 113 is another matter. I didn&#039;t have my figures to hand when watching the race but my first instinct was that Frankel had just hammered a 116 horse. It was when I checked back through my ratings I saw I had him on 113. ORs tend to yoyo a bit over the season so his 115 was obviously revised back down at some point.&nbsp;I agree about Windsor Palace but his 4-length inferiority to Side Glance puts him on 104, exactly the same as his OR. I was temtped to rate the race via him but would have ended up with the exact same figures. If the OR underrates him then you could into account the in-running comment that he was slowly into stride and niggled along most of the way - not the ideal scenario for running to its best form.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Desert Orchid, post: 2399719, member: 65242"] I admit I'm never comfortable relying on RPRs for foreign racing so I tend not to. My point was that since Indomito couldn't do much in handicaps in Dubai off 105 there has to be a question mark over whether the 110 he got on RPRs for his most recent run was correct. The lines with Side Glance suggest it might have been on this occasion. Whether Side Glance is better than 113 is another matter. I didn't have my figures to hand when watching the race but my first instinct was that Frankel had just hammered a 116 horse. It was when I checked back through my ratings I saw I had him on 113. ORs tend to yoyo a bit over the season so his 115 was obviously revised back down at some point. I agree about Windsor Palace but his 4-length inferiority to Side Glance puts him on 104, exactly the same as his OR. I was temtped to rate the race via him but would have ended up with the exact same figures. If the OR underrates him then you could into account the in-running comment that he was slowly into stride and niggled along most of the way - not the ideal scenario for running to its best form. [/QUOTE]

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