Car insurance - wtf is going on??

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I'm not blonde, so I don't have any excuses for not understanding the wunnerful world o'car insurance, but can anyone explain to me why a 1995 1.6 litre Proton costs £388 p.a. to insure (with More Than), and a 2001 1.5 Hyundai Accent (both are auto, both 5-dr hatches) costs the same?

I asked why I didn't get a rebate on the difference in car engine sizes, and the call centre person said because insurance is calculated on the car's age. In that case, I said, you must've been overcharging me for several years on the Proton. No, no, that's the premium, take it or leave it.

I thought that cars' insurance costs were worked out on engine size, which is why a Bugatti Veyron might cost a bit more than a Proton. But if it's only on age, then presumably I could have an old Lamborghini Spyder which would cost the same to insure as a new Clio?

Can anyone please explain, very, very simply, how car insurance is worked out, and am I paying too much?
 
Auto Insurance Quickguide: How rates are calculated

How Do Car Insurance Companies Calculate the Rates They Charge?


Depending on your jurisdiction, the insurance premium you pay, can be either set by the government or determined by individual insurance companies, based on a framework of regulations that are set by the government.

Figuring out the insurance premium that an individual companies will charge you, is a bit like putting different pieces of a puzzle together, because car insurance companies combine a number of different elements to arrive at your individual premium. The interesting part of it is that they all have a slightly different way of looking at things, and this produces a variation in prices between companies.

The following is a brief explanation of how the different elements may affect your final insurance rate:

What kind of car do you drive?


Car insurance companies have two basic methods of establishing premiums for your automobile. They use the relative claims experience of the makes and models of automobiles to establish your insurance premium. This means that they will check into the repair costs, the rate of injury, and the likelihood that the particular car may be stolen, to establish their risk and then price it accordingly. The current value of your vehicle is another factor, and insurance companies use a variety of methods to establish the current fair market value of your vehicle.

How is your vehicle used?


It stands to reason, the more you use your auto, the higher the odds that you'll of be involved in an automobile accident at some time. So, all other factors being equal, people who don't do much driving tend to pay much lower premiums than than those that have a long commute to work, or do extensive amounts of driving for other reasons. Also of major importance, is who is using the vehicle.
Your automobile insurance premium costs will also likely be higher if you have inexperienced drivers in your family or a number of different drivers using the car.

Where do you live?


Car insurance rates are generally higher in metropolitan areas. Cities with their considerably higher density of traffic and people, mean that there is a higher likelihood of accidents, theft or vandalism claims.

What's your driving record?


Your driving record is based on the number of years you've been licensed to drive, your previous insurance experience, and the number of at-fault accidents (usually up to the last 6 years but sometimes even longer.) If you drive safely and defensively to avoid convictions and at-fault accidents, your premium will be lower than if you've had a conviction or accident. In a nutshell, the better your driving record, the lower your insurance rates.

What optional coverage limits and deductibles do you choose?


When you purchase your automobile insurance, you can select some of the coverage limits and deductibles.

Most states require the purchase of at least a minimum amount of coverage for Third Party Liability. If you choose a higher coverage limit, you can expect to pay a correspondingly higher premium. If you select a lower deductible, you'll also pay a higher premium. Why? Because in both examples, you're asking the insurance company to assume more financial risk if you're involved in an accident or claim. If you select a lower limit of coverage or a higher deductible, you can reduce your premium costs, but you also shift more of the financial burden of liability and repairs onto yourself.

You could decide not to purchase optional coverage, and this is one way to save on your insurance premium costs. For example, if you have an older automobile, you might want to consider not purchasing collision or comprehensive coverage if the automobile is not worth the additional premium cost.

Interestingly, most insurers have a slightly different take on all of this data, and this is what leads to the wide differences between quotes that one sometimes sees for essentially the same insurance.
 
Ooh, thanks, Granger! I'll have a good squint through this in a minute, but that's very kind of you.

Considering I've driven since the age of 17 without being involved in an accident (including any caused by others), drive low-desirability cars, barely exceed 5,000 miles a year, have only 1.5 or 1.6 litre models, and have never made a claim, then £388 for an old banger, followed by what is essentially another old banger but in terrific nick, seems outrageous. I shouldn't be paying more than £75, I reckon!!
 
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I'm paying £295 for the van, third party only because of it's age, and about £240 for the Fiesta fully comp. and I've had people tell me I'm paying too much, but I never do seem to get round to changing companies until they really start to take the piss.
 
Try all the comparison websites.

I'd ignore Direct Line and Aviva. The fact they've withdrawn from comparison sites means they've accepted they aren't going to get any business from them because they're not competitive enough. They'd probably be better to lower their prices and get in there competing rather than spend millions - which customers end up paying for through higher premiums - on naff TV ads.
 
Funny old subject. I was always led to believe that it depends what 'group' its in but I think thats changed now.

I went on confused to get quotes for a Fiesta for a lad I know,he's 23 and a learner. Car was worth about £1200. Quinns wanted £500 (which was the cheapest) but a firm in London wanted about £4000!!! Most wanted around the value of the car. Sickening really.
 
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