Cathy Come Home

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The BBC is running a season on homelessness and are showing 40 years on Cathy Come Home again at 11pm on BBC4 .

The grim thing is that 40 years on despite Government statistics homelessness is still prevalant. The Government have this trick called the Homelessness Prevention strategy - this is a laudable objective as it requires local authorities to take steps to try and stop people becoming homeless . Many local authorities however, use it as a means of fobbing homeless people off , for example gatekeeping where an officer is used to carry out a preliminary check before people are even allowed to apply as homeless , making appointments weeks in advance when the law requires an immediate response.

Homeless people are often left in dreadful hostels in cramped accommodation for weeks on end . Many find themselves living next door in hostels to drug users, striuggling alcoholics and chaotic families . Living in such accommodation often has a bad effect on children and can lead to frustration and upset such as shown in Cathy Come Home . Those who express it and lose their temper will often be declared as guilty of anti social behaviour and thrown out of the hostel and declared to be intentionally homeless.

Although the Children Act requires local authorities to do everything to keep families together the House of Lords has still ruled that their powers to provide accommodation outside the homelessness legislation can be exercised in a way that breaks up the fmaily i.e providing accommodation to children but not their parents .

It isn't just history.
 
I dont know where i stand on homelessness as in Blackpool many guest houses take DSS in as full time residents so they have a regular income but, you still see some on the streets not wanting the help and rather spend there money on booze, oblivously its different when kids are involved and splitting up families is wrong and i can only see one solution get the migrants out of this country and free up the council houses.
 
Those opinions are very depressing and based on complete ignorance of the facts

1 Asylum seekers have no access to council housing they are housed in accommodation provided by the Home Office in arrnagements with private landlords - much of it in a very poor state

2 The vast majority of Eastern European migrants are single people who have no priority need for housing and thus live in the private rented sector , often in fact in badly overcrowded accommodation

3 Accession state workers are only eligible to be considered for homeless accommodation by local authorities if they are working or if they have worked here for over a year and have worker status and a right to reside.

4 A significant majority of other migrants are only allowed to work here so long as they have no recourse to public funds that includes locla authority housing accommodation

5 One of the major causes of homelessness is mental health problems. Our mental helath services are wholly inadequate and the number of people whose lives spiral out of control following events such as divorce or bereavement is shocking .
 
Its not ignorance its fact.

When i lived in Leicester i was waiting in the social services departement as my wife worked in the departement, i saw 2 men come in, one that had just arrived in Leicester with no where to live (ASIAN) another was a white man with no where to live, the asian got given accomadation and told he would have a house in weeks, the white man was told to sleep in a door way.
 
Sorry I don't accept that crap at all

1 Homelessness interviews and investigations take place in private

2 Homelessness investigations are not carried out by the social services department in Leicester or anywhere

3 In any event the reason why anyone would be given short term accommodation pending a decision on homelessness enquiries would be because they were in priority need e.g had children whilst there is no duty to provide accommodation to single people unless they are vulnerable or pregnant or homeless by means of fire or other emergency

4 Anyone leaving accommodation available for their occupation and which would be reasonable for them to continue to occupy would be intentionally homeless and would not get a house anyway .


It is by peddling anecdotal rubbish like your story that prejudice and ignorance spreads
 
Originally posted by The Pro@Nov 26 2006, 10:40 AM
the asian got given accomadation and told he would have a house in weeks
If he was told that then the person who yold him was mistaken or telling him a lie.
 
Ardross im not being funny but it seems your never wrong, so im not going to bother as i could'nt win either way with your arrogance, ive told you what i saw and heard im only going on that, im not peddling it or trying to be ignorant im just telling you it as it happened and i think your a disgrace to try and label me, but your a mountain of info with google as your friend and if you believe all the so called facts that are produced are true, then its your prerogative.
 
The Pro, Ardross is a specialist housing lawyer. I would wager Google is not his primary source of reference here.
 
Hypothetically speaking then, still no excuse for his complete lack of respect for anybody who has a different opinion to his.
 
Originally posted by The Pro@Nov 26 2006, 11:55 AM
lack of respect for anybody who has a different opinion to his.
I believe that in this instance the dispute was not over matters of opinion but those of fact?
 
Originally posted by BrianH+Nov 26 2006, 11:12 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (BrianH @ Nov 26 2006, 11:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-The Pro@Nov 26 2006, 11:55 AM
lack of respect for anybody who has a different opinion to his.
I believe that in this instance the dispute was not over matters of opinion but those of fact? [/b][/quote]
No the dispute is over him trying to call me a liar and trying to label me a racist, if the facts are right then im wrong, but to call what i saw and heard crap then he's not as smart as he posts.

I think thats me done in this thread anyhow. :lol: No hard feelings.
 
I'm not sure if anyone else saw this but earlier this week on channel 4 the comedian Hardeep Singh (Tartan Turban) presented a programme that had him go around the country trying to find out why we are so pet mad in this country (bear with me this is relevent!) he could not understand why we were prepared to spend so much money on our pets yet ignore the suffering in other countries, towards the end of the programme he walked through a town centre with two collecting tins, one for homeless dogs & the other for homeless people, the result? all but one person put their money in the homeless dogs tin :unsure: the reason given by most was that the dogs can't help themselves which is true, yet they all seemed to think that the reason most lived on the streets was of their own choosing & they could just walk into council offices etc & get housed if they wanted too :blink: its scary that this is the opinion of the general public.
 
Originally posted by Aldaniti@Nov 26 2006, 01:25 PM
, yet they all seemed to think that the reason most lived on the streets was of their own choosing & they could just walk into council offices etc & get housed if they wanted too :blink: its scary that this is the opinion of the general public.
Unfortunately, it is the opinion of those who are fed with this stuff by certain sections of the popular press.
 
Cornish Rebel ?

I can only urge forumites to watch it . I saw it at the Cornerhouse in Manchester a couple of years ago as we put it on with Shelter - it was sold out . I was struck how relevant it still was then and is still now
 
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