Cheltenham Inspection at 10.30

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Flagging this up in case anyone misses it in other thread

Windchill -12 overnight, five per cent of course currently unraceable, inspection at 10.30am

Clerk of the course Simon Claisse: “It seems to be small areas but we can’t really tell the extent until we start to take the covers up.If the weather does what we expect it to and the temperature gets up to 3C by 12pm, we should be kicking off as planned at 1.30."
 
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Only one K in ******* Granger not 2 :lol:

Betfair are taking no commission off any winning bets at Cheltenham today.

To do with them being offline which cost some traders who were looking to lay or back in running a small fortune'''''''''It's the least they could do
 
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The snow they are currently showing on ch4 doesn't look great, not saying it won't be on, but wouldn't be wanting to back at 1.3!
 
Talk of the wind chill factor is nonsense - we don't normally talk about the wind when refering to the ground and today is no different.

Wouldn't take odds-on about it going ahead, Claisse far too optimistic yesterday and now attempting to cover his own back. Snow isn't good news either as if that gets on top of the covers and settles it'll be impossible to get the covers off for a start.

Martin
 
Irish Stamp said:
Talk of the wind chill factor is nonsense - we don't normally talk about the wind when refering to the ground and today is no different.

Wouldn't take odds-on about it going ahead, Claisse far too optimistic yesterday and now attempting to cover his own back. Snow isn't good news either as if that gets on top of the covers and settles it'll be impossible to get the covers off for a start.

Martin
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Wind chill on ground isn't nonsense, IS - while a wind will draw moisture out of the ground, if it is sufficiently cold, it will not draw the frost out, particularly if there's no sun. We wouldn't have had the same overnight temps as there down here in Somerset but that frost is well into our ground and it will a few hours before that disappears - if it even does! Long time since we've had this combo of Northerly winds over almost all the country.

Still, always a silver lining - ground now firm enough for us that we mean get on with a decent but of muck-spreading on ground tractors were sinking in a few days ago!
 
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Wind-chill is a physiological effect on living tissue and is not applicable to ground temperature; but it's this week's ooh-aah buzz word so Mr Claisse is only going with the crowd :rolleyes:

I actually think there's very little to worry about: the Met Office radar shows a narrow band of snow ((which unfortunately coincided with the Morning Line) , now all but cleared and the IR/Visible satellite images indicate clearish sky to follow. So the strong March sun should lift any remaining frost quite rapidly

If time is required racing could delayed until at least 2.00pm with half-an-hour between races, later if the aberrant, unnecessary Cross-Country event is postponed
 
Drifted out to 1.33 and was backed into 1.21 then back out to 1.31 and back in to 1.23 probably nothing to do with the whether it's likely to be on or not just traders laying one minute backing the next and robbing the amateurs :0
 
I have been mildly critical of Claisse in the past (:lol:), but my issue is not with the fact that a frost has set in - it is with the apparently ludicrously optimistic messaging he has put out over the last few days.

Putting all previous sins aside for the moment, he has singularly failed in one the key aspects of management - setting reasonable expectations for your customers.

I don't really know the intricacies of ground husbandry, the effects of the weather, or to the extent that forst-covers are effective. My 'reasonable expectation' is that a Clerk of the Course is a master of such arts, and if he's telling me there's not a bother, then I can trust him to be competent and have no concerns. If he expresses a degree of concern, then I will be accordingly cautious.

Even if racing goes ahead, Claisse has utterly failed to 'manage the message' here, and when it's view in a landscape of other misdemeanours, his competency as a manager is open to question, in my view.

I should add I don't want the guy sacked.

I want him put in a sack, and preferably thrown off the Clifton Bridge. :D
 
Claisse

"We are above freezing now, and with an hour and a half of sunshine we'd crack on. It's +0.5 degrees now, so it's improved three-quarters of a degree in the last hour. We are moving in the right direction."
 
RP "Cheltenham has passed inspection, with the first race pushed back to 2.05. The cross-country chase will be run at 5.45"
 
Grasshopper said:
I have been mildly critical of Claisse in the past (:lol:), but my issue is not with the fact that a frost has set in - it is with the apparently ludicrously optimistic messaging he has put out over the last few days.

Putting all previous sins aside for the moment, he has singularly failed in one the key aspects of management - setting reasonable expectations for your customers.

I don't really know the intricacies of ground husbandry, the effects of the weather, or to the extent that forst-covers are effective. My 'reasonable expectation' is that a Clerk of the Course is a master of such arts, and if he's telling me there's not a bother, then I can trust him to be competent and have no concerns. If he expresses a degree of concern, then I will be accordingly cautious.

Even if racing goes ahead, Claisse has utterly failed to 'manage the message' here, and when it's view in a landscape of other misdemeanours, his competency as a manager is open to question, in my view.

I should add I don't want the guy sacked.

I want him put in a sack, and preferably thrown off the Clifton Bridge. :D
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The guys a clown,it's not the first clanger he's dropped,there something every year.captain calamity.
 
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