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And that's what really concerns me about the current trial by jury system. That was my point.

Watching this programme, thinking that is how it could be... It would entirely put me off reporting such an incident, if it (God forbid) ever happened to me. What other evidence could there have been, even if she had reported it earlier?

I felt the physical evidence, the character references, the way he kept changing his story... he was less than convincing and this combined with the physical evidence and the fact that she was so bruised and also that the sex was unprotected while she had condoms right there in her bag... it would have been enough for me. I was certain that he had done it based on the evidence shown in court, and I would have been shocked if it had turned out any other way.

Of course if I was on a jury myself I would never give a guilty verdict based on opinion, as a legally trained person I am fully aware of the "beyond reasonable doubt" standard of proof in the criminal courts. But, in a rape case, what evidence would you expect in order to give a guilty verdict - physical evidence of trauma, sure - which was evident in this case - and what else?

<blockquote data-quote="purr" data-source="post: 2101123" data-attributes="member: 65195">And that&#039;s what really concerns me about the current trial by jury system.&nbsp; That was my point.Watching this programme, thinking that is how it could be... It would entirely put me off reporting such an incident, if it (God forbid) ever happened to me.&nbsp; What other evidence could there have been, even if she had reported it earlier?I felt the physical evidence, the character references, the way he kept changing his story... he was less than convincing and this combined with the physical evidence and the fact that she was so bruised and also that the sex was unprotected while she had condoms right there in her bag... it would have been enough for me.&nbsp; I was certain that he had done it based on the evidence shown in court, and I would have been shocked if it had turned out any other way.Of course if I was on a jury myself I would never give a guilty verdict based on opinion, as a legally trained person I am fully aware of the &quot;beyond reasonable doubt&quot; standard of proof in the criminal courts.&nbsp; But, in a rape case, what evidence would you expect in order to give a guilty verdict - physical evidence of trauma, sure - which was evident in this case - and what else?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="purr, post: 2101123, member: 65195"] And [b]that's [/b]what really concerns me about the current trial by jury system. That was my point. Watching this programme, thinking that is how it could be... It would entirely put me off reporting such an incident, if it (God forbid) ever happened to me. What other evidence could there have been, even if she had reported it earlier? I felt the physical evidence, the character references, the way he kept changing his story... he was less than convincing and this combined with the physical evidence and the fact that she was so bruised and also that the sex was unprotected while she had condoms right there in her bag... it would have been enough for me. I was certain that he had done it based on the evidence shown in court, and I would have been shocked if it had turned out any other way. Of course if I was on a jury myself I would never give a guilty verdict based on opinion, as a legally trained person I am fully aware of the "beyond reasonable doubt" standard of proof in the criminal courts. But, in a rape case, what evidence would you expect in order to give a guilty verdict - physical evidence of trauma, sure - which[b] was[/b] evident in this case - and what else? [/QUOTE]

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