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and I have seen many who had little interest in pace before our Derby who seem really interested in it now that it might involve making excuses for Coolmore horses losing.

in fact when I have mentioned pace before it normally gets little response or interest..except..oooh speed figures mean little..its winning that matters and handicap ratings..its not a time test etc....now it seems to be mentioned daily

the Derby was slow early..yes..quite a few are..but this years has been mentioned more than any other in that respect..its an attempt to run down the winner imo.

i've been thinking it for a while..so I might as well just say it

I wonder if any mention of pace would have taken place had F&G won it?

best appreciate good horses when they come along..it matters not which stable they in imo

<blockquote data-quote="EC1" data-source="post: 2206239" data-attributes="member: 65360">and I have seen many who had little interest in pace before our Derby who seem really interested in it now that it might involve making excuses for Coolmore horses losing.&nbsp;in fact when I have mentioned pace before it normally gets little response or interest..except..oooh speed figures mean little..its winning that matters and handicap ratings..its not a time test etc....now it seems to be mentioned daily&nbsp;the Derby was slow early..yes..quite a few are..but this years has been mentioned more than any other in that respect..its an attempt to run down the winner imo.&nbsp;i&#039;ve been thinking it for a while..so I might as well just say it&nbsp;I wonder if any mention of pace would have taken place had F&amp;G won it?&nbsp;best appreciate good horses when they come along..it matters not which stable they in imo</blockquote>

[QUOTE="EC1, post: 2206239, member: 65360"] and I have seen many who had little interest in pace before our Derby who seem really interested in it now that it might involve making excuses for Coolmore horses losing. in fact when I have mentioned pace before it normally gets little response or interest..except..oooh speed figures mean little..its winning that matters and handicap ratings..its not a time test etc....now it seems to be mentioned daily the Derby was slow early..yes..quite a few are..but this years has been mentioned more than any other in that respect..its an attempt to run down the winner imo. i've been thinking it for a while..so I might as well just say it I wonder if any mention of pace would have taken place had F&G won it? best appreciate good horses when they come along..it matters not which stable they in imo [/QUOTE]

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