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I think RVW is definitely being overrated a bit here. His performances in the guineas and derby are definitely miles off hawk wing's two, both of which were superb, in completely different regards too. I would say at this stage mastercraftsman over 10 furlongs, and F&G over 12 (and perhaps 10) would be favoured to beat him.

[QUOTE="HughC, post: 2206314, member: 65020"] I think RVW is definitely being overrated a bit here. His performances in the guineas and derby are definitely miles off hawk wing's two, both of which were superb, in completely different regards too. I would say at this stage mastercraftsman over 10 furlongs, and F&G over 12 (and perhaps 10) would be favoured to beat him. [/QUOTE]

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