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I think this talk about Nashwan beating "a subsequent Breeders Cup Mile winner" is a load of sh*te, though.

Factually, it may be true but in his first outing after Sandown Opening Verse was still a 40/1 shot when beaten five lengths by Zilzal, and he was then beaten out of sight in a listed race at Windsor. In fact, it was fully two years and four months later that he won in the US! (So he was probably doped to the eyeballs as well.)

Willoughby also stressed the presence of Warning in that Eclipse, conveniently omitting that Warning was beaten out of sight next time (his last outing, therefore it seems reasonable to conclude he was pretty much finished as a top class racehorse) at 7/4f in that same race behind Zilzal.

I could probably have run past Opening Verse in that Eclipse, carrying you, Steve!

<blockquote data-quote="Desert Orchid" data-source="post: 2206383" data-attributes="member: 65242">I think this talk about Nashwan beating &quot;a subsequent Breeders Cup Mile winner&quot; is a load of sh*te, though. &nbsp;Factually, it may be true but in his first outing after Sandown Opening Verse was still a 40/1 shot when beaten five lengths by Zilzal, and he was then beaten out of sight in a listed race at Windsor. In fact, it was fully two years and four months later that he won in the US! (So he was probably doped to the eyeballs as well.)&nbsp;Willoughby also stressed the presence of Warning in that Eclipse, conveniently omitting that Warning was beaten out of sight next time (his last outing, therefore it seems reasonable to conclude he was pretty much finished as a top class racehorse) at 7/4f in that same race behind Zilzal.&nbsp;I could probably have run past Opening Verse in that Eclipse, carrying you, Steve!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Desert Orchid, post: 2206383, member: 65242"] I think this talk about Nashwan beating "a subsequent Breeders Cup Mile winner" is a load of sh*te, though. Factually, it may be true but in his first outing after Sandown Opening Verse was still a 40/1 shot when beaten five lengths by Zilzal, and he was then beaten out of sight in a listed race at Windsor. In [B]fact[/B], it was fully [B]two years and four months later[/B] that he won in the US! (So he was probably doped to the eyeballs as well.) Willoughby also stressed the presence of Warning in that Eclipse, conveniently omitting that Warning was beaten out of sight next time (his last outing, therefore it seems reasonable to conclude he was pretty much finished as a top class racehorse) at 7/4f in that same race behind Zilzal. I could probably have run past Opening Verse in that Eclipse, carrying you, Steve! [/QUOTE]

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