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I will try to explain what I meant.


UTPT and SFP have self-evidently run as the handicapper expected they would (his job is to try and manufacture a dead-heat) and Noble Endeavour is only 3lbs off where the Handicapper expected him to finish. That's the point I was trying to get across, though I could perhaps have worded my previous post more elegantly/clearly.


OK, Buywise is well off, so I'll give you that. My bad - it's been a busy morning. :lol:




Now.......if you think UTPT has improved past his 153 rating in the Ultima, that's fine. It's a fair enough position to adopt, and the handicapper agrees with you (has put him up a half-stone). 


Equally, if you want to back UTPT for the Gold Cup, that's fine too, as you clearly see some prospect for even more improvement.


And if you think UTPT is already a better horse than both Might Bite and Our Duke, that is also fine.


I just happen to disagree with all of these assertions, and I think it's perfectly fair to call them out, when statements like "will eat them for breakfast" are bandied-about. For my money, it runs-down what Might Bite and Our Duke have achieved, and needs tempered.


No dispute here - just a difference of opinion. :cool:


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