Flushing Programme

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No, not an x-rated film guys ...

For those who wanted to know more from the broodmare topic in Racing...

A flushing programme for cattle is an exercise in increasing your (almost always) top pedigree animals by means of generating many more embryos from one good female than she would otherwise produce naturally.

It's almost identical to the human IVF programme..

In our case, we've pedigree Begian Blues, so we'll get a group of maybe three of four females all programmed to have matching oestrus (fertility) cycles, which are engineered by using prids to get them bulling (coming into season) at exactly the same time and by also injecting them with Folltropin, which encourages multiple ovulation.

At the same time your pedigrees are scheduled to come bulling, you have a batch of recipient females - almost always cross-bred heifers (mum likely to be a dairy black and white, dad a beef animal of some sort) also matching their oestrus cycle.

As the pedigrees come into season, they are AI'd with pedigree bull semen and a week later, along comes a special vet/technician usually employed by one of the big cattle semen companies (Genus in our case but could be Cogent or specialist vet practices such as Paragon). They literally 'flush' out the hopefully now fertilised eggs using special equipment and examine the seven day eggs microscopically to see if they have been feritilised and to assess what grade they are - A - C. A grade eggs can be frozen for implantation at a later date or implanted 'fresh' that same day. B & C grades can be implanted there and then but there's less chance of a successful pregnancy.

So, if all's gone well and your pedigree has flushed somegrade A eggs, you also should have several recipients (or surrogate mums if you will) all ready and waiting to be examined for suitability and, if the Vet, he say 'Yes', the technician then implants one of the pedigree embryos into the recip.

Still with me ? There will be an exam later....

The success rate of successful implants is about 50% and on Tuesday, we had our big day when the latest batch of recips were scanned to see how many successful pregnancies we had on board. This was our best ever result, as we've five out of eight in calf ! It's not a cheap process but if it goes well, then it's a lot cheaper than buying in or just having one calf per good cow.

Not all cows will flush eggs, of course. Out of the four we flushed in December, one cow produced 8 embryos, all grade A, one cow only produced one (which luckily has taken) and the other two came up barren. We also buy in frozen embryos from other breeders and, as in this case, as we had eight recips and didn't want to have a load of identically bred offspring, we used three frozen embryos as well.

Our first flushing attempt three years ago resulted in one out of four pregnant, the second flush last year coincided with that incredibly hot July and we only had three out of nine successes, but each time we're learning a lot more and we are fanatical about how they're housed and fed leading up to being flushed/implanted and it's making a big difference.

Next programme starts in April....
 
wow, I knew none of this. Cows seem such uncomplicated animals that I just kind of thought they got together and made more cows. I have perhaps been reading too many Gary Larson cartoons. Do you know the one where the cows are standing on a hill, upright, smoking and drinking and one of them shouts, "car" and they all go back on all 4's and discard ciggies and glasses?

I will look upon them with more respect and awe from now on, and on their owners too!



Are you going to test us after we all read this ??? :what:
 
yeah, am amazed as well.

@ Isinglass: love larson and thats a classic. should have warned us that there is more to them...
 
Yes, I remember that cartoon as well - love 'The Far Side'. :) I also loved the late Kliban and his weird, rather sinister cats!

Crikey, Songy! I won't visit for quite a long time now - I'm afraid I'll be given a two-hour sit-down test! Thanks for all of that. I'll have to re-read it a few times to take it all in.
 
Interesting stuff....

Let's face it, there are not many forums where you can learn about the flushing of cows and learn what a prid is all in one day. :D

When I see my farmer's cows next door ( I still haven't managed to ask who owns them yet, Songsheet) I will be wondering all sorts of things about them, and their fertility.
 
You can show off alarmingly now, Kathy! "Ah, good morning. How's your flushing programme going? Lost any good prids lately?"

I've just thought how the name PRIDWELL now seems... :shy:

Not to mention Flushing Meadows!
 
Krizon - I do not believe it! Someone else who knows who Bernard Kliban is! :clap:

I loved his cats so much that when I got a large stripey tabby I named her Kliban! I had her for years but sadly she got run over when she was old and my ex boyfriend moved her from the town to the country. The one truck that came by once a day got her.

I do not know if you know this, but, his cats were based upon his own two tabbies. And when he and his wife divorced a custody battle was waged over the cats! He said they were his livelihood and without them he would not be able to work.

As I grew up in the States his stuff was everywhere and he was quite famous. He was a professor at college and doodled on everything, so a lot of his cartoons end up in charity shops and boot sales.

He also had a great little book called, "Never eat anything larger than your head!.
 
Great to have another Kliban fan on board, Isinglass! :D I had a big, coffee-table book just called 'Kliban's Cats' and I wish I still had it, the cats were wonderful. I worked with a lot of Americans at the time he was at the peak of his popularity, and they loved his stuff. Didn't know about his personal life, though - that's interesting. Do you remember one picture where two cats have put on false noses and moustaches, to disguise themselves from the little birds? :laughing:

I'm sorry to hear about your own 'Kliban' - isn't that ridiculous? She spends her life surrounded by busy roads, and then gets killed by the one truck out in the country! I'm not making fun of the incident, but it would be the sort of thing that Kliban would somehow have appreciated, I think. Certainly his more evil cats would have done!
 
Another aspect of the bovine activities at Poleshill!

Our'best' heifer, Tamhorn Wee Lass (a misnomer if ever there was one...) - well our most expensive heifer anyway, we've been unable to get in calf. She was entered up on our flushing program in July but, when the vets did the routine internal exam, they discovered she had an enormous growth on her right ovary. The description was a growth about the size of an ogen melon.

Lass has always been seen to come bulling regularly, so we were advised to pull her out of the program but try and get her in calf using AI - they thought the left ovary would be working OK and so we'd maybe have to try a few times but that she should get in calf. Well, she didn't, either to AI or when we ran her with our pedigree BB stock bull. Right form the start, I started muttering about "Could we do an ovarectomy?" but was met with some slight resistance as they'd never been asked to do this before on a bovine - it's not cheap and usually heifers that don't breed go for meat.

Well, a) Lass wasn't cheap and more importantly b) she has the nicest temperament and is a very good looking BB, so, as the alternative for her wasn't exactly good, I asked if they would do the surgery - after all, it is a pretty commonplace surgery for mares so why not a bovine? We were sending mares for ovarectomies when I was at Adstock in the early 80's....!

So yesterday was The Big Day. The prep was almost the same as for a c-section - loads of local into the wound site, all ultra-clean, heifer remains standing. The only difference being that she was able to be sedated. We had two vets and a vet student assisting and the usual combo of Phil leaning against her rear end and me against her shoulder to keep her steady. The actual op took about 45 mins, as Ali was able to confirm, much to our relief, that it was indeed an enormous cyst - the other, bad, alternative was that it could have been a cancerous type growth feeding directly off her uterus, which would have meant curtains.

Ali was able to ligature the cyst successfully and extracted a heavy, fluid-filled ball about the size of a large grapefruit - see pix below! Really fascinating. We had all theorised that this cyst could be secreting hormones that were preventing any fertilised eggs that Lass was making on her 'good' left ovary from implanting in her uterus and, when Graham vet dissected part of the cyst, it had clearly grown around her right ovary, making it impossible to function. So it was even better news that Ali had managed to remove all the infected area and that, with the right ovary now absent, as long as there is no infection and Lass recovers OK, she at least has a chance of getting pregnant.

She was ace through the op and the worst bit for her was that she's had to be starved since Monday night, so that her rumen was as empty as possible, which makes the incision area easier to work for the vet. She went straight into her 'recovery' stable and started to munch her hay. She's well covered with anti-biotics and pain killers, so all we can do now is wait until she's recovered and hope that the surgery has worked. We'll know more in a few days and, if it looks OK, we'll try getting her in calf in about two months.

The two vets were highly delighted with themselves as they were hellish worried about it all going tits up and a very good job they did too!

The Cyst!

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Close up...
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Ali's sewing is very good - he makes all his own clothes!
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Wee Lass as she's being cleaned up afterwards - if you look closely, you can just see a very interested Maggie in the far stable !
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Poor darling! That must've been a bit uncomfortable? Give her a good scritching from Auntie, please, and xxx. I bet the vets want the photo for their Wall of Fame, don't they?
 
Great stuff, Songsheet. That must be one very relieved and eternally grateful Wee Lass.
 
Lordy! That must've been uncomfortable lugging that thing around inside her. I hope the op does the trick and that she'll now have babies.
 
Originally posted by Shadow Leader@Mar 1 2007, 02:06 PM
A large grapefruit??? How large do they grow down in Somerset??!!!! :laughing:
Have pasted in correct img for the first picture now to give a better sense of scale - you're right, Dom - Somerset grapefruit are a tad smaller!!! :P
 
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