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Established means having existed or done something for a long time so the question is wrong or misunderstood. If it's established form it doesn't need franked it just needs the horse to be on song.

You have to ask yourself did Blue Fashion have to win to convince punters he was going to win the Champion Hurdle. No more than L'Ami had to win to convince punters Kauto Star would win the Gold Cup........neither runner up won a thing worth talking about after running those horses close and very close in KS's case. But they had other form that was good enough to win their races.

So the answer has to be no or yes depending on which form you are looking at.

Look at the Irish Gold Cup today. Lets say the bookies have got it right and R2R wins and First Lieutenant is beaten 20 lengths are we to assume Don Poli is wasting his time going to Cheltenham ?

100% the form of established horses doesn't need to be franked..the form that does need franked is on the way to the top not when you have already proven you have the ability

<blockquote data-quote="Tanlic" data-source="post: 2541428" data-attributes="member: 65954">Established means having existed or done something for a long time so the question is wrong or misunderstood. If it&#039;s established form it doesn&#039;t need franked it just needs the horse to be on song.You have to ask yourself did Blue Fashion have to win to convince punters he was going to win the Champion Hurdle. No more than L&#039;Ami had to win to convince punters Kauto Star would win the Gold Cup........neither runner up won a thing worth talking about after running those horses close and very close in KS&#039;s case. But they had other form that was good enough to win their races.So the answer has to be no or yes depending on which form you are looking at.Look at the Irish Gold Cup today. Lets say the bookies have got it right and R2R wins and First Lieutenant is beaten 20 lengths are we to assume Don Poli is wasting his time going to Cheltenham ?100% the form of established horses doesn&#039;t need to be franked..the form that does need franked is on the way to the top not when you have already proven you have the ability</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tanlic, post: 2541428, member: 65954"] Established means having existed or done something for a long time so the question is wrong or misunderstood. If it's established form it doesn't need franked it just needs the horse to be on song. You have to ask yourself did Blue Fashion have to win to convince punters he was going to win the Champion Hurdle. No more than L'Ami had to win to convince punters Kauto Star would win the Gold Cup........neither runner up won a thing worth talking about after running those horses close and very close in KS's case. But they had other form that was good enough to win their races. So the answer has to be no or yes depending on which form you are looking at. Look at the Irish Gold Cup today. Lets say the bookies have got it right and R2R wins and First Lieutenant is beaten 20 lengths are we to assume Don Poli is wasting his time going to Cheltenham ? 100% the form of established horses doesn't need to be franked..the form that does need franked is on the way to the top not when you have already proven you have the ability [/QUOTE]

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