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If my ratings were exactly the same as the OHR's..i'd be wasting my time doing them Tanlic..so would DO..so would anyone who takes the time.

I'm not really understanding your point tbh..am i getting stick for reading the race correctly?

Of course the TH horses will run to higher marks than they did the season after the TH..thats bloody obvious...but my point was..P&C was over rated on 159 at the time he won the TH..in my opinion.

I get excited about figures when they are above the level for a race...Our Conor was above the level for an average winner for a TH. In my experience a TH hoss will improve about 14 lb the folowing season..on average,,,.so when i see a TH winner i'd be wanting a Our Conor figure not a P&C figure to be near a CH level the season after. Then they have to show that they don't need further than 2 miles..which is another story.

If you look at last years TH..those near the front haven't even improved the 14lb average siince the TH..from my figure of 150.

I'd expect that P&C should this season have got to about a 165 level..and thats with average improvement..many years..they fall short of that...thats below the CH average..and 10 below such as Faugheen. Again..thats why i didn't see him winning a CH..even with average improvement.

TH horses improve..everyone knows that..but my opinion was that he would have to improve well above average to be near CH level..which was why i never thought the form was that great...and i've said it often enough on here.

<blockquote data-quote="EC1" data-source="post: 2541438" data-attributes="member: 65360">If my ratings were exactly the same as the OHR&#039;s..i&#039;d be wasting my time doing them Tanlic..so would DO..so would anyone who takes the time.I&#039;m not really understanding your point tbh..am i getting stick for reading the race correctly?Of course the TH horses will run to higher marks than they did the season after the TH..thats bloody obvious...but my point was..P&amp;C was over rated on 159 at the time he won the TH..in my opinion.I get excited about figures when they are above the level for a race...Our Conor was above the level for an average winner for a TH. In my experience a TH hoss will improve about 14 lb the folowing season..on average,,,.so when i see a TH winner i&#039;d be wanting a Our Conor figure not a P&amp;C figure to be near a CH level the season after. Then they have to show that they don&#039;t need further than 2 miles..which is another story.If you look at last years TH..those near the front haven&#039;t even improved the 14lb average siince the TH..from my figure of 150.I&#039;d expect that P&amp;C should this season have got to about a 165 level..and thats with average improvement..many years..they fall short of that...thats below the CH average..and 10 below such as Faugheen. Again..thats why i didn&#039;t see him winning a CH..even with average improvement.TH horses improve..everyone knows that..but my opinion was that he would have to improve well above average to be near CH level..which was why i never thought the form was that great...and i&#039;ve said it often enough on here.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="EC1, post: 2541438, member: 65360"] If my ratings were exactly the same as the OHR's..i'd be wasting my time doing them Tanlic..so would DO..so would anyone who takes the time. I'm not really understanding your point tbh..am i getting stick for reading the race correctly? Of course the TH horses will run to higher marks than they did the season after the TH..thats bloody obvious...but my point was..P&C was over rated on 159 [B]at the time he won[/B] the TH..in my opinion. I get excited about figures when they are above the level for a race...Our Conor was above the level for an average winner for a TH. In my experience a TH hoss will improve about 14 lb the folowing season..on average,,,.so when i see a TH winner i'd be wanting a Our Conor figure not a P&C figure to be near a CH level the season after. Then they have to show that they don't need further than 2 miles..which is another story. If you look at last years TH..those near the front haven't even improved the 14lb average siince the TH..from my figure of 150. I'd expect that P&C should this season have got to about a 165 level..and thats with average improvement..many years..they fall short of that...thats below the CH average..and 10 below such as Faugheen. Again..thats why i didn't see him winning a CH..even with average improvement. TH horses improve..everyone knows that..but my opinion was that he would have to improve well above average to be near CH level..which was why i never thought the form was that great...and i've said it often enough on here. [/QUOTE]

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