French Student Protests

Probably working hard around their lectures - stimulating the economy and reducing unemployment?
 
Originally posted by Brave Inca@Mar 28 2006, 05:32 PM



To the UK students, where are you? :rolleyes:
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Lounging around listening to the fucking Arctic Monkeys whilst feeling pleased with themselves for no apparent reason.
 
Ah, revolting French students... how very 1960s! Le plus ca change an' all that. I was pleased to be able to flash the car's lights and do a thumbs up to some revolting hospital staff marching loudly down the road outside the hospital this morning, with 'HANDS OFF OUR PENSIONS' signs. Hands off pensions, indeed, Chairman Blair. :angry:
 
I loved living in France. They will protest at absolutely anything and I joined in a few after reading why they were rebelling. Not enough people in this country are up for a fight. That said. the UNISON demos at least showed some backbone today and good for them and yes before anyone asks, my school WAS open.
 
I can understand the protesters' point of view, but I believe that a startling 24% of French people under the age of 26 are currently unemployed, so the existing system is clearly not working, and some action needs to be taken.

At least what the government's proposing may significantly increase the number of jobs for "young people".

Has anyone got a better idea?
 
Mari Antoinette was in power for 16 years over here. I've a lot of admiration for the French. Felon and cohorts would've been strung up by now if they'd been at the same games over there.
 
Originally posted by Desert Orchid@Mar 28 2006, 04:55 PM
Do you condone their mindless violence, BI?
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Do you think that what you see on Sky News is a fair representation of what's actually happening? What percentage of the protesters do you think are commiting acts of mindless violence?


My local library had a strike action today, unfortunately, there was no picket. They just had a day off. That'll show 'em!


*Whoops, forgot to take my pills!*
 
Venusian, my dissertation was on this problem 7 years ago. Too many young people under 26 are willing to stay in Univeristy for longer - up to 8 years so it is little wonder the unemployment rate is so high. If we take the starting age as 18, it is hardly a shock.

18 +
2 years - DEUG
3 - Licence
4-5 - Maitrise
8- Doctorat
 
Hmm. I worked in HR for a French bank until 5 years ago and I have to say that in general French employees enjoy far greater protection in their employment than their UK counterparts - and, partly as a result, they tend to stay with the same Company for much longer. This probably contributes to the high unemployment rate amonst young people.

Where I worked, one of the knock-on effects of the difficulty in making people redundant in France was that if the Bank needed to make cost savings it would do so, wholesale, in its foreign branches and subsidiaries, which meant there was no stability whatsoever in the London offices. Also, there was an awful lot of "deadwood" at management level in Paris where some very incompetent people would effectively get moved around from job to job because it was impossible to get rid of them ...

Maybe things have changed, I don't know.
 
Double identity alert! :blink: Kotkijet - please, having you as Brave Inca is more than enough! (I appreciate you'll support ze Frainch students, of course, being a leedle Frainch 'orse yourself.)
 
Originally posted by PDJ@Mar 28 2006, 06:46 PM
I loved living in France. They will protest at absolutely anything and I joined in a few after reading why they were rebelling. Not enough people in this country are up for a fight. That said. the UNISON demos at least showed some backbone today and good for them and yes before anyone asks, my school WAS open.
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:o PEE....Oh thank god for that, that’s the best post you have ever made on here to my recollection, and I agree with your synopsis entirely…. No I am sober I can assure you….. :P

On the other point you made.....
P.S. it was a joint union protest + G.M.B. T.G.W.U. which I support in its entirety! how can teachers, police, and civil servants, firemen, get their pension rights upheld but not the workers on the shop floor (ie. home carers dustmen, leisure center workers, auxillary workers in most schools and in social services) yet they are in employed by the same employers..............REALLY GETS MY BACK UP.........
 
Hmmm, I'm not against protests per se, but so many of them can get out of hand. If they're organised and peaceful and for a legitimate reason then fair enough - but when it gets out of hand enough ie enough. Too many peole join these protests with the express purpose of kicking off trouble whilst not actually giving a shite about the issue in hand.
 
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Originally posted by Shadow Leader@Mar 28 2006, 09:02 PM
Too many peole join these protests with the express purpose of kicking off trouble whilst not actually giving a shite about the issue in hand.
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Exactly, SL.
 
Can someone please explain how a person over the age of 26 is protected against termination whereas a person under this age is not?

Wouldn't that be considered a form of age discrimination? No wonder they are protesting.

In Australia, all workers from age 14 & 9 months, and thereafter are protected by federal laws. All people, no matter there age, race or religion are subject to a 3 month probation in each new term of employment. The employer has the right to terminate their application in those 3 months, if they do not live up to the company standards.
Once the 3 months have gone, the employer's rights are pretty much gone down the drain.

I honestly cannot understand how a person would need to prove themselves in 2 years a capable employee, 3 to 6 months fine, but thereafter? And also in this stone age, the period of time spent in one company would on average, from latest statistics I saw from Bureau of Statistics, be at the maximum 5 years.
 
Originally posted by Grand Armee@Mar 29 2006, 09:18 AM
I honestly cannot understand how a person would need to prove themselves in 2 years a capable employee, 3 to 6 months fine, but thereafter?
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Because fuckwit bosses like to give people "a chance" to show that they are not as bad as they seem to have been in the first 3-6 months. It comes as a surprise to them when they discover that they are actually just terminally shit and they can't get rid of them.

Seems like a great idea to me.
 
We once had a French business and I have to say that the stringent employment legislation made you think much harder than you would, for example, in the UK before creating new jobs.

I don't understand, PDJ, what the further education system in France has to do with things - the fact is that over 25% of those under 26 years old who are available for work are unemployed. This includes almost the same perceentage of graduates.

The proposed alteration in the law is designed to give a chance those who are seeking work. It doesn't seem to have been explained very well.
 
Paul
The french people showed very much how to fight in the 2nd World War..... :lol:


France is a joke of a country, the system is not working and most of the people in the streets are not students.


The globalization and people will to buy so many things so cheaply make our employment laws ridiculous and with absoulte no future.
 
The whole thing is anachronistic. The Provos are gone fishing in Donegal, ETA are men of peace. Freedom for Catalunya from the tyranny of the Castillians is the last remaining issue to be solved and that is promised for 2015.

As Michael Corleone might say "today, all our family business is settled."

Then the bleedin French go and start.
 
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