Gazza

If this is the Raoul Moat interview with Gazza it's an oscar winner.
Gazza is surely on borrowed time
 
does anyone understand why anyone would want to lay flowers out for this bloke - theres a bloody tribute page to him on Facebook

we live in strange times don't we?
 
We do indeed EC1 - or why would you take out a court injunction to stop your daughter seeing her critically ill sister?
 
I meant the strange times EC1 (and another strange times addition) - as for the flowers for Raol Moat they should be for the PC who was shot, Chris Brown who was murdered and Samantha Stobbart.
 
What David Cameron said as a PM is that Raoul Moat is a callous murderer who deserves no sympathy

I agree up to a point.

What I would have liked is for the police to have used that experimental Taser to stick it as far up his worthless ass as they could have gone and watch him fry.

Absolute wanker who should have been shot on sight.

And this country doesnt surprise me with the outpouring of "support" for this tosser!!

And his brother should have been too ashamed to talk with the media
 
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Oi! Less of these derogatory "society" and "this country" generalisations - it's this society and this country which funds millions of poundsworth of charitable donations to lepers, orphans, the dispossessed and the starving all over the world. It's this society which supports hospices, animal sanctuaries and tens of thousands of voluntary services, including the RNLI and the air ambulances. I think we're a very generous society, constantly reminding ourselves of how well-off we are and doing our best to help others less fortunate. We also look after our own with endless organisations assisting crime victims, the elderly, the vulnerable.

I don't agree with Moat being 'shot on sight', either. However deranged he was, he was also a father who had once been, one assumes, good enough to be loved. As for the floral tributes, yukky as I find these things, they are presumably from the friends and neighbours he had before he went off the rails. There are always going to be parasites who feed off any media event and who'll have wanted to have got in on this - once a tv crew show up, everyone knows the man - but you can't blame people who knew him in a very different way for not wanting him demonised, especially for his kids' sake. Most will be trying to show the world that he wasn't, perhaps, the grotesque he appeared to be.
 
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I'm in the 'should have been shot' camp I'm afraid. He was clearly mentally unstable, had already shot three people, been on the run for days, had declared open warfare on the police and after several hours of being surrounded by snipers in a public place still refused to give up his sawn off shotgun. It was only ever going to end in tears and a body count, whether it was his or countless others.
 
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I think he should've been shot with a tranquillizer dart that would've downed a hippo, seeing how he'd have pulled it out, or maybe tear-gassed - hell, if it's good enough for students, surely it's good enough for the deranged and armed? I also think yes, you could certainly - surely! - have sniped his gun hand or arm? I just don't get all this endless stand-off nonsense - if you have snipers who can shoot Taleban out of trees at half a mile, surely to God the fuzz have some decent marksmen who could wing him - maybe arm and leg, if necessary - so as to disable and disarm him? I don't see the point to the pretence of 'talking to' people who have clearly left this world mentally. And it's for that reason - because he must've been off his head - that I don't believe in killing him, either.
 
I guess the thoughts behind not wounding him were that if he were to take a shot to, say, his leg, it would probably have been enough to send him into a shooting frenzy.
 
I'm surprised that pieces of his clothing aren't being sold as holy relics guaranteed to cure scrofula and worms by now, EC1. Surely a petition for "Saint Raoul", patron of spurned lovers, will be next on the cards?
 
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