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Hi all

Does anyone know of a bookmaker that is likely to be accepting bets on the dog racing at Hull tonight?

(Apologies for posting this twice!)

Cheers

HJ
 
During my brief stint with W Hills they would accept bets for any dog race if the card was printed in the Racing Post.I would spread it around very thinly.
 
You'll be lucky tbh, HJ. Hull is a notorious track & a lot of bookmakers won't accept a bet there. If they do I reckon you'll be lucky to get on more than £25 or £50. Good luck!
 
A result then!! :lol:

Seriously, tracks like Henlow, Harlow, Wisbech, Hull you will struggle to get a punt on as they are so dodgy. Dog racing in general (unless it's BAGS or at a large track) can be hard to punt on to any significant amount as it is so notorious for being bent!
 
Originally posted by Shadow Leader@Dec 3 2005, 12:01 PM
A result then!! :lol:

Seriously, tracks like Henlow, Harlow, Wisbech, Hull you will struggle to get a punt on as they are so dodgy. Dog racing in general (unless it's BAGS or at a large track) can be hard to punt on to any significant amount as it is so notorious for being bent!
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I think you've terribly over generalised there.


Dog racing is certainly less bent than horse racing and as Trevor says is improving.
 
Following that theory manorboy, does a horse know he's been stopped then?

Seriously, dog racing is notoriously bent. It may be getting better but I can promise you that compared to horse racing, dog racing comes off far worse. From a betting point of view, a lot of the cash about is absolute filth - hence why so many bookmakers are totally unwilling to get involved with laying large (in the case of some tracks, any) bets. Certain tracks are worse than others, true - but even some of the large ones can be utter filth - Wimbledon, Hove & Brough Park being examples.
 
Hi SL

I cannot see your problem with the dogs, it is certainly on a par with the horses if not better.
As the nature of the sport involves a little bit of luck for all dogs who race, you do get the occasional big price winners but not the same as the horses.
If an NGRC dog finds more than 6 lengths on the clock on par with his recent runs he has to trial again and will be regraded and the trainer reprimanded. If a dog turns up to race either under/over weight questions are asked and have to be explained.
I am not saying that a trainer cant keep a couple of lengths up his sleeve for graded races as this happens but in open races there is no hiding places.
Can you please tell me why (and I take exception to the fact) you consider my and other greyhound backers money as 'absolute filth'?
You are living in the world of the 'flapping' tracks where old fashioned gambles went on regularly where dogs were backed off the boards. Give me 1 recent example of an NGRC open race dog finishing last in it's last few races and then is backed from 50/1 to even half those odds and romping home and I will show my bottom in Woolies window.
Horses can have form figures of PPF00 and then pop in at half the opening show and very little is said and if a horse trainer pulls off a master gamble he is classed as a genius, so why is the dog trainer who finds a couple of lengths classed as a rogue.
At my local track where only 5 independant bookies stand, IF you want a decent bet on you have to hit all 5 at the same time as it it they who are shit scared and will not take large bets. You ask for a few hundred on and most will offer you a score at that price and banter for the rest, by then the other bookies have scrubbed it off. The same happens on a Saturday morning with the horses, where they will not give you decent money for a decent bet.
You only have to read the thread on Henrietta's so called cheating to realise the different views on the status of the horses, so please do not class the dogs in the same league, it is detrimental to our sport.

Regards
Trevor
 
I'm sure Shads will be back to speak for herself Trev but in this thread I believe she is speaking as a bookmaker and when she speaks about "your" money as being filth, I think she is saying that it is likely to be informed and on that basis isn't "mug-money", which after all is what makes bookmakers profits.

Hope your keeping well, me old mucker. :D
 
Trevor, Colin is right. I'm not talking about money from the everyday punter; I am speaking purely from a bookmaking point of view. From a bookmaking point of view (excluding the shops, I'm talking about call centres/internet betting) a very large proportion of cash on dogs is filth. It certainly isn't straight money, I promise you! It is because of this that you will struggle to back dogs that 1) aren't running in BAGS races 2) aren't live on TV or 3) at tracks other than the largest tracks. If you do manage to get on, chances are the most you will be offered will be £25 or £50 at a time - the reason for this being that the large majority of these bets are real live money. As I said before, even the larger tracks can be notoriously bad - Wimbledon, Walthamstow, Hove & Brough Park are very often the source of major plots & coups. As for tracks like Henlow, Harlow, Wisbech, Hull, Kinsley et al - most bookmakers won't even accept a bet for these tracks at the smallest amounts as it is just not worth the risk.
 
Hi SL

So that means that all call centre/internet betting on horse racing is bent as well and all money is filth !!!
I promise you that NGRC greyhound racing is better than the horse racing for being straight but niether is 100% straight otherwise you would not have any betting at all.
Lets just agree to differ but keep this thread alive by adding to it all the plots/ coups/ fiddles that happen in both sports over the next few weeks or so.

Regards
Trevor
 
What we seem to have here is a statement from a bookmaker's representative that says that Bookmakers would like to take bets on dog racing providing the prospective punter knows f*ck all. Not only do they want to limit the tracks on which you bet(in the main, to those over which they have total control) but now they want to discriminate against anyone who has an inkling about what is going on. That sounds about right to me but then I have never had a great deal of love for any of them. In fact it is my ambition to clean out as many as I possibly can during my stay on earth. I see them as bloodsuckers.The sooner we have a Tote monopoly in this country the better as far as I am concerned.
A few of us have a coup planned at a Ngrc track for this week but It wouldn't be fair on the bookmakers so I won't disclose it on here.
 
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