I'll apologise for a start..I have not read this thread...yet
but
Are people getting carried away with Denman?????
Yes it was a cracking win...but the horse in 2nd place is rated 142
Denman is a horse that was never going to worry about carrying weight...so beating a 142 horse by 11 lengths isn't Gold Cup form..because the weight is neither here nor there imo...when a horse is built to carry it.
now if the horse he beats is a 160 horse..I'd say it was Gold Cup form..but adding the weight difference is a nonsense in this particular instance.
What the question should be is...was 11-12 a steadier..because if it wasn't..then we aren't looking at Gold Cup form.
It's all about waht carrying 11-12 means to the individual horses..in Denmans case I think he is built to carry weight..so you have to remove it as far as ratings are concerned.
What impressed was his jumping for me...but as yet he has not proved on this prformance that he is Gold Cup material...the race was also run at a crawl..favouring a horse carrying weight as it wasn't a thorough test.
Handicap wins can be very misleading...particularly when not strongly run.
GC prices for me would be KS ..EVENS ...DENMAN 5/1
just my view...either way..no one will remember anyone elses view come March...so it's all acadamedic what we say now anyway :laughing:
