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I'm sure if you read the next few sentances Clive, as you've selectively 'cut and pasted' where you did, then its pretty clear what I said. And the words "Not dis-similar" as opposed to 'indentical', 'the same' etc were used quite deliberately.

I'm not a conference denier

But was imploring people to think before reacting thus. For what its worth, I think Grassy's right. It's a tactic, not an attempt to re-write history. If the West repsonds in the way that they're hoping we will ,then they will have achieved their objective. There would be nothing that the Islamic media would love more than for us to be taking to the streets burning flags and whipping up the flames of religious hatred.

I don't mind taking a fight when I have to, but this one really is a case of turn the other cheek, or challenge in the spirit of openess and facts etc. The trophy is the high moral ground in this one, not a question of proving 5 million, 6 million or none at all etc that's just background scenary (cyncial as it maybe) thats been invoked to try and precipitate an undeclared reaction. If we take the bait, we risk forfeiting some of this territory

<blockquote data-quote="Warbler" data-source="post: 2095206" data-attributes="member: 65228">I&#039;m sure if you read the next few sentances Clive, as you&#039;ve selectively &#039;cut and pasted&#039; where you did, then its pretty clear what I said. And the words &quot;Not dis-similar&quot; as opposed to &#039;indentical&#039;, &#039;the same&#039; etc were used quite deliberately. I&#039;m not a conference denier <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> But was imploring people to think before reacting thus. For what its worth, I think Grassy&#039;s right. It&#039;s a tactic, not an attempt to re-write history. If the West repsonds in the way that they&#039;re hoping we will ,then they will have achieved their objective. There would be nothing that the Islamic media would love more than for us to be taking to the streets burning flags and whipping up the flames of religious hatred. I don&#039;t mind taking a fight when I have to, but this one really is a case of turn the other cheek, or challenge in the spirit of openess and facts etc. The trophy is the high moral ground in this one, not a question of proving 5 million, 6 million or none at all etc that&#039;s just background scenary (cyncial as it maybe) thats been invoked to try and precipitate an undeclared reaction. If we take the bait, we risk forfeiting some of this territory</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Warbler, post: 2095206, member: 65228"] I'm sure if you read the next few sentances Clive, as you've selectively 'cut and pasted' where you did, then its pretty clear what I said. And the words "Not dis-similar" as opposed to 'indentical', 'the same' etc were used quite deliberately. I'm not a conference denier :D But was imploring people to think before reacting thus. For what its worth, I think Grassy's right. It's a tactic, not an attempt to re-write history. If the West repsonds in the way that they're hoping we will ,then they will have achieved their objective. There would be nothing that the Islamic media would love more than for us to be taking to the streets burning flags and whipping up the flames of religious hatred. I don't mind taking a fight when I have to, but this one really is a case of turn the other cheek, or challenge in the spirit of openess and facts etc. The trophy is the high moral ground in this one, not a question of proving 5 million, 6 million or none at all etc that's just background scenary (cyncial as it maybe) thats been invoked to try and precipitate an undeclared reaction. If we take the bait, we risk forfeiting some of this territory [/QUOTE]

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