Jerry Springer - The Opera

BrianH

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Amid all the hoo-hah about the televising of the hit show one thing has puzzled me. Not the fact that there have so far been 20,000 complaints from people who haven't yet seen the show - that's par for the course. Rather, the massive discrepancy between calculations of how many swear words there are in the show.

Mediawatch, which is the modern name for the National Viewers’ and Listeners’ Association founded by Mary Whitehouse, claims that ther are 8,000, This is even more than double the number that the Sun claimed in one of its regular anti-BBC diatribes. The show's writers and management said that the number was 451. (One early claim from them was 375, but they didn't count one particular word as a swear word and Mediawatch did.)

These days we are all used to spin and even Sun readers know which items in their paper of choice to ignore but the gap between 451 and 8,000 was so big as to warrant investigation.

I now know why that gap exists. The word "arse", say, appears in a song. The authors count that as one swear word. But it happens to be in a part of the song that is sung by the entire chorus. there are twenty people in the chorus at that time, so Mediawatch count it as twenty!

You may have guessed my view - over half a million people have paid to see the award winning show, which has played to packed houses in London having opened at the Edinburgh Festival. It has garnered eight Olivier nominations, including one for Best New Musical. It will be broadcast on BBC2 at 10.00pm and for an hour beforehand there is a documentary about the show, which, in the unlikely event that there is anyone who doesn't know what to expect, will explain to them what thay are in for.

I say that anyone who is likely to be offended by the show need not watch it.

There are plans to open on Broadway in the spring - now that will be fun...
 
I don't recall Mediawatch complaining all the time about the actual Jerry Springer show . I haven't seen Js The Opera but friends tell me it is brilliant and hilarious .

The Sun is absurd - did they not complain about the sex in a drama a few years back and insist on showing us pictures of all the actresses naked so we could register our disgust .
 
Best thing to do with people who complain about something who do their complaining before the reason they are complaining has even been born yet, is to complain against the complainers.
 
I thought it was hilarious. As for the recurring song "This Is My Jerry Springer Moment", there's a catchphrase in the line "Dip me in chocolate and throw me to the lesbians".
 
The Devil on Jesus: "Yeah, yeah, it's always about the crucifixion. Get OVER it!!"

Jesus to the Devil (holding up his hand): "Talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk to the Stigmata!"

Terrific voices, set pieces, scene changes, dance routines, and yes, a couple of swear words get used to death, but in this particular satirical context, they don't come across as verbal violence.

I suppose there will be outrage among the pious, but those secure enough in their beliefs will see that this is no more than a morality tale, the old Good vs Evil routine, with the more modern envoi that there are no absolutes of either.

Well, maybe with the opposing exceptions of Charles Manson and Mother Theresa...
 
I thought it was brilliant. I laughed an awful lot and, like Jon, I didn't think the swearing was a spoiler.
 
I thought that the first half was better than the second . It showed what a load of nonsense the protests were . These " Christians" were from born again organisations nobody had ever heard of . All credit to the BBC to tell them to sod off especially after the Birmingham Rep fiasco . Religious extremists should not be allowed to threaten freedom of expression.
 
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I did have an argument with my mother yesterday about the screening as she was vehemently opposed to it.
 
Originally posted by BrianH@Jan 7 2005, 03:22 PM
So, simmo, are you a fan of the press?
I like the Racing Post. Except the price of it. I used to work in the same building as the Daily Rangers/Celtic (delete as applicable), a newspaper which takes the moral high ground on as many things as possible, and can confirm that their journalists are, almost to a man, tossers. I can also confirm that they are under strict orders to keep their stories "sexy".

PS The man hating Agony Aunt, Joan Burnie, is actually a very nice person.
 
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