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It's an interesting point, Isinglass but again, if everyone turned vegetarian, I very much doubt there would be as much forest as there is now! As not all land would be suitable for the myriad of veg we'd all need to survive, I suppose vast tracts would revert to scrub? And the remainder would be intensively farmed to meet the high volume and the cheap food the average Brit would still mindlessly demand.

It's just basic commonsense that everything should be, for the majority of the time, eaten in moderation. Which is why such festivals as Christmas were so much more enjoyable decades ago - the food was special and everyone over-indulged because it was just an annual event. That's simply not the case any longer.

We don't get all sentimental about our beef cattle - apart from our pedigrees of course! For 99% of their lives, they are well-fed, well-housed, they graze in decent fields in the summer with good hedges and shelter and they stress about very little. Come the time for their lives to end, it's done as quickly as possible but I can't guarantee there's no stess - of course there is but it's for a very short time. Every now and then we'll get a loopy animal intent on damaging us and itself that will get a stick on its arse, because they can be bloody dangerous but that's the exception, not the rule.