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Time aside, which isn't the most trustworthy ways of finding top class horse, the form of the race Kingman won was very ordinary.

Everything in that race bar the winner was goosed 2 1/2 furlongs out having seemingly gone a fair clip.

Nice horse though but he'd have to be doing the same thing against much better animals before I'd be in his camp for the Guineas.

As Gus mentions Berkshires form looks rock solid he won easily from Bunker and Ihtimal. Considering Adhwaa who fished 2nd to Kingman was kicked well into touch by Ihitmal Kingman would have to improve a fair bit to be bothering Berkshire.

I think it's fair to be saying if Berkshire was trained by AOB, Gosden or som in fashoion trainer he would be clear fav for the Guineas.

The fact he's trained by Paul Cole may put many off but he's enjoying the best strike rate he's had in 12 years. The man trained generous and trainers like Paul Cole are as good as any when they get the right horse and this horse might just be the one that puts him back on the map.

I thought he was really impressive at Ascot and unlike Kingman he was beating some very talented horses

<blockquote data-quote="Tanlic" data-source="post: 2442602" data-attributes="member: 65954">Time aside, which isn&#039;t the most trustworthy ways of finding top class horse, the form of the race Kingman won was very ordinary.Everything in that race bar the winner was goosed 2 1/2 furlongs out having seemingly gone a fair clip.Nice horse though but he&#039;d have to be&nbsp; doing the same thing against much better animals before I&#039;d be in his camp for the Guineas.As Gus mentions Berkshires form looks rock solid he won easily from Bunker and Ihtimal. Considering Adhwaa who fished 2nd to Kingman was kicked well into touch by Ihitmal Kingman would have to improve a fair bit to be bothering Berkshire.I think it&#039;s fair to be saying if Berkshire was trained by AOB, Gosden or som in fashoion trainer he would be clear fav for the Guineas.The fact he&#039;s trained by Paul Cole may put many off but he&#039;s enjoying the best strike rate he&#039;s had in 12 years. The man trained generous and trainers like Paul Cole are as good as any when they get the right horse and this horse might just be the one that puts him back on the map.I thought he was really impressive at Ascot and unlike Kingman he was beating some very talented horses</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tanlic, post: 2442602, member: 65954"] Time aside, which isn't the most trustworthy ways of finding top class horse, the form of the race Kingman won was very ordinary. Everything in that race bar the winner was goosed 2 1/2 furlongs out having seemingly gone a fair clip. Nice horse though but he'd have to be doing the same thing against much better animals before I'd be in his camp for the Guineas. As Gus mentions Berkshires form looks rock solid he won easily from Bunker and Ihtimal. Considering Adhwaa who fished 2nd to Kingman was kicked well into touch by Ihitmal Kingman would have to improve a fair bit to be bothering Berkshire. I think it's fair to be saying if Berkshire was trained by AOB, Gosden or som in fashoion trainer he would be clear fav for the Guineas. The fact he's trained by Paul Cole may put many off but he's enjoying the best strike rate he's had in 12 years. The man trained generous and trainers like Paul Cole are as good as any when they get the right horse and this horse might just be the one that puts him back on the map. I thought he was really impressive at Ascot and unlike Kingman he was beating some very talented horses [/QUOTE]

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