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It likely has its origins in the Egyptian spring. Qatar were funders of Mohammed Morsi and his muslim brotherhood. The Saudis supported Abdul Fattah El Sisi and succeeded in getting him installed as the muslim brotherhood went on a crack down against secularism and restored the links to Gaza

You'll recall that Qatar were the first arab country to involve themselves in Libya flagging Libyan oil. The west stupidly thought this was something of an endorsement in the arab world. In reality (and you didn't need to be genius to know this) they had a horse in the race and were duly caught gun running by the Americans later on

Tension between the Saudis and Qataris have been on rise ever since Egypt. I don't necessarily see this as bad versus good, but bad versus bad to be honest

It's also the case that the Saudis are looking to create a few lightning conductors in the region, and the Qataris are potentially expendable (coming so soon after Trump's visit I think 2 + 2 probably does equal 4 in this case). Also note that the Iranians have been turning up the volume in the last few days about the need to cut out Wahhabism at its source and that the Bahranians have just announced a crackdown against their dissident population in the last 24 hours. That Bahrain, and Egypt have be co-opted into this move is no surprise

The country that's still drifting into the middle east morass of course is Turkey, but that can wait for another day. Trump is going to have decide whether to support or stab the kurds at some point, but given that he seems to be ok with Erdogan's goons beating up Americans in the country's own capital I think we can probably see which way he'll dive on that one

<blockquote data-quote="Warbler" data-source="post: 2575917" data-attributes="member: 65228">It likely has its origins in the Egyptian spring. Qatar were funders of Mohammed Morsi and his muslim brotherhood. The Saudis supported Abdul Fattah El Sisi and succeeded in getting him installed as the muslim brotherhood went on a crack down against secularism and restored the links to GazaYou&#039;ll recall that Qatar were the first arab country to involve themselves in Libya flagging Libyan oil. The west stupidly thought this was something of an endorsement in the arab world. In reality (and you didn&#039;t need to be genius to know this) they had a horse in the race and were duly caught gun running by the Americans later onTension between the Saudis and Qataris have been on rise ever since Egypt. I don&#039;t necessarily see this as bad versus good, but bad versus bad to be honestIt&#039;s also the case that the Saudis are looking to create a few lightning conductors in the region, and the Qataris are potentially expendable (coming so soon after Trump&#039;s visit I think 2 + 2 probably does equal 4 in this case). Also note that the Iranians have been turning up the volume in the last few days about the need to cut out Wahhabism at its source and that the Bahranians have just announced a crackdown against their dissident population in the last 24 hours. That Bahrain, and Egypt have be co-opted into this move is no surprise&nbsp;The country that&#039;s still drifting into the middle east morass of course is Turkey, but that can wait for another day. Trump is going to have decide whether to support or stab the kurds at some point, but given that he seems to be ok with Erdogan&#039;s goons beating up Americans in the country&#039;s own capital I think we can probably see which way he&#039;ll dive on that one</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Warbler, post: 2575917, member: 65228"] It likely has its origins in the Egyptian spring. Qatar were funders of Mohammed Morsi and his muslim brotherhood. The Saudis supported Abdul Fattah El Sisi and succeeded in getting him installed as the muslim brotherhood went on a crack down against secularism and restored the links to Gaza You'll recall that Qatar were the first arab country to involve themselves in Libya flagging Libyan oil. The west stupidly thought this was something of an endorsement in the arab world. In reality (and you didn't need to be genius to know this) they had a horse in the race and were duly caught gun running by the Americans later on Tension between the Saudis and Qataris have been on rise ever since Egypt. I don't necessarily see this as bad versus good, but bad versus bad to be honest It's also the case that the Saudis are looking to create a few lightning conductors in the region, and the Qataris are potentially expendable (coming so soon after Trump's visit I think 2 + 2 probably does equal 4 in this case). Also note that the Iranians have been turning up the volume in the last few days about the need to cut out Wahhabism at its source and that the Bahranians have just announced a crackdown against their dissident population in the last 24 hours. That Bahrain, and Egypt have be co-opted into this move is no surprise The country that's still drifting into the middle east morass of course is Turkey, but that can wait for another day. Trump is going to have decide whether to support or stab the kurds at some point, but given that he seems to be ok with Erdogan's goons beating up Americans in the country's own capital I think we can probably see which way he'll dive on that one [/QUOTE]

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