Navan Sunday

granger said:
This is what Jumps weekends are all about

Cracking card at Navan

Apple's Jade
A Plus Tard
Andy Dufrense
Melon
Fakir in the bumper
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While he didn't make your pre-meeting list of exciting horses to watch, I thought Abracadbras was most impressive on Sunday.
Really loved the way he travelled through the race. Hard to know what he beat in behind, but visually I was very taken.
 
I’m happy to strike A Plus Tard off. Could possibly win a weak renewal of the Ryanair, will come on for the run but I can’t have him. I understand for the winner, it’s his Gold Cup so to speak, I just would want to see a bit more.

Could be speaking to early mind and I’m happy to give him another chance. Will need something impressive to change my mind though.

On Apples Jade, I’m gutted, probably my favourite mare in training. I know Kevin Blake is standing by her, and she has ran a mid 140s apparently which is only what she ever does really run first time out (brought up figures to back his point) it’s just the manner of her last few defeats that leave me questioning. Think they’ll have one last go, and if it’s a similar performance next time out she’ll be retired. If that is the case, what a mare she has proven to be. Right up there, if not better, than the likes of Annie Power for me.
 
On A Plus Tard

I'm actually still as keen as mustard

I will elaborate

* i'm already on board the bandwagon
* he is now a much bigger price
* He was taking on a very good horse who would trouble any 2m chaser on that ground and when travelling like that
* APT needs another 4f or so
* Spring form is a plus
* Much less chance of him running in a QM and no chance of a GC
* He is a young horse and open to much improvement still
* Henry trains him
 
A Plus Tard's Cheltenham figure is so far ahead of anything else he's done that it has to be treated with caution. Sunday's performance fitted in with normal improvement from his other runs last term.
 
granger said:
On A Plus Tard

I'm actually still as keen as mustard

I will elaborate

* i'm already on board the bandwagon
* he is now a much bigger price
* He was taking on a very good horse who would trouble any 2m chaser on that ground and when travelling like that
* APT needs another 4f or so
* Spring form is a plus
* Much less chance of him running in a QM and no chance of a GC
* He is a young horse and open to much improvement still
* Henry trains him
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Have to say I'm this way inclined myself. Was staring at 25/1 for the Ryanair for quite a while yesterday, but just didn't pull the trigger, yet!
Like you PJ, I thought Sunday's run was a perfectly fine reappearance and the horse clearly needs further than 2M.
Also, remember he lost on his seasonal reappearance last year too and only won 1 of 3 races before hacking up at the Festival.
My view is that the Ryanair is 99% certain to be his target and everything is worked backwards from that.
 
archie said:
A Plus Tard's Cheltenham figure is so far ahead of anything else he's done that it has to be treated with caution. Sunday's performance fitted in with normal improvement from his other runs last term.
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Possibly trained with a handicap mark in mind last year and ran over the wrong trip next time out

Plenty of good horses would have been downed over the minimum trip on Sunday to Bally but he plugged on

I think there is a fair chance he won't win a race before Cheltenham next March either
 
wilsonl said:
I posted on here shortly after the race - obviously site problems at the time - that, while it's early doors, I'd a strong suspicion we'd just seen the Supreme winner.
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Elliot mob handed with novice hurdlers Abacadabras, Envoi Allen and Andy Dufresne. All 3 look potentially top class at this point.
As it stands you'd think Andy & Envoi are more Neptune bound. Good thing is 3 different owners, so hopefully there's no excessive ducking and diving!
The Royal Bond going to be very interesting on 1st December. The exciting Dlauro also entered up for Joseph.

https://www.racingpost.com/racecards/182/fairyhouse/2019-12-01/744796/
 
All good Cheltenham hopes should run at Navan

Lovely course run by friendly people and always a knowledgable crowd there

GE is absolutely mob handed with hurdlers

It's possible that 3 future Gold Cup winners raced at Navan last Sunday :)
 
It's an exciting season to look forward to. The novice hurdle division is absolutely stacked, and we haven't started talking about Willie's battalions yet either!
 
Maruco said:
It's an exciting season to look forward to. The novice hurdle division is absolutely stacked, and we haven't started talking about Willie's battalions yet either!
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I think the last couple of years have been poor to be honest, this year the polar opposite. Some real high class hurdlers coking through that have the potential to be anything.
 
granger said:
Don't know to be honest

He has been a bit of a talking horse but possibly because of his name even more than his connections
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Had a couple like that. One who’s been favourite for 2 Supremes despite never running. Other one called Sennarco or something? Absolutely trounced on debut when he was something like a 1/5 shot.
 
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