Now We Are Going To Get A Fat Tax

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This government has found yet another new way to tax people. The latest one is to tax the people that like eating fattening foods ie. make certain foods more expensive.

So would you be happy to pay more for a cream cake and give the tax to the government? shrug::

Unbelievable, a real vote winner :rant: :rant:
 
I know, but I like cream cakes, Lee :(

I also feel that some people can only afford to buy food that is cheaper, and perhaps eat less healthy foods due to their finances. I am not sure why they should be punished financially. If people like eating fattening foods surely they will buy them anyway and perhaps get themselves into debt or deeper debt. I really don't think taxing is the answer, but making the healthier foods cheaper, and educating people rather than financially punishing them.
 
People don't have to eat cream cakes to put on weight, it is simply taking in more calories than they burn.
Unfortunately our lives are governed by the car which with some exemptions, I would heavily tax.
 
Originally posted by Lee Chater@Jul 12 2007, 09:25 AM

Unfortunately our lives are governed by the car which with some exemptions, I would heavily tax.
Do you not think that we pay enough taxes on our cars already??????

There is already VAT on cream cakes and other such delicacies, I see no reason to pay any more than that.
 
The government has done no such thing.

Not even the Daily Mail thinks so, providing Oxford University as the source of a study suggesting that the government should consider it:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/arti...in_page_id=1774

Indeed, the Mail go on to specifically say:

In 2004, Tony Blair rejected the idea of a tax on fatty foods, saying it would make Britain too much of a nanny state.
 
" Do you not think that we pay enough taxes on our cars already?????? "

If they were taxed more then people would walk more and be more healthy, children would accept that they cannot rely on parents to ferry them everywhere.
The roads are gridlocked with cars making unnecessary journeys etc etc
 
I don't eat cakes anyway really, only at parties. So it doesn't really matter to me.

If they put the price up on Chips however, there will be a riot! :nuts:
 
Originally posted by Jamie@Jul 12 2007, 09:50 AM
They'd just resort to using the bus & trains though Lee.
Those in rural communities often don't have the option of using buses or trains. The public transport around where I live is atrocious. But that's a whole new subject.
 
Originally posted by Griffin+Jul 12 2007, 10:16 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Griffin @ Jul 12 2007, 10:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Jamie@Jul 12 2007, 09:50 AM
They'd just resort to using the bus & trains though Lee.
Those in rural communities often don't have the option of using buses or trains. The public transport around where I live is atrocious. But that's a whole new subject. [/b][/quote]
Obviously it's essential to have transport in those areas, i.e cars, but I was referring to the 'unneccesary journeys' comment by Lee. People who have a car, who get high taxed (If the rule were introduced), will just use buses and trains and it wouldn't encourage them to walk or be more healthy, renderring the whole process pointless.
 
Courtesy of The BBC

Government unit 'urges fat tax'

Burgers are among the foods likely to be hit by a 'fat tax'
Plans for a tax on fatty foods such as cakes and biscuits are being considered by government advisers.
The Prime Minister's Strategy Unit is considering increasing duties on some food and having a sports drive to fight obesity, according to the Times.

The newspaper claims a document urges a fatty food tax as a "signal to society" because the number of obese British people has risen sharply in 20 years.

A Downing Street spokesman said the government had no plans for such a tax.

He said: "It is no secret that the government is looking at the problem of obesity.

FOODS TARGETED
Dairy products: fresh butter, cheddar cheese, full fat milk
Fast food: Cheeseburger, takeaway pizza, potato wedges
Sweets: Milk chocolate bar, Danish pastry, butter toffee popcorn

Source: strategy unit paper according to the Times

"But no proposals of this kind have been put to the prime minister."

The spokesman said that there was agreement both in and out of government that it would not be a workable system.

However, he confirmed the story came from a minor discussion document by their strategy unit.

The Times says the strategy unit's paper, titled Personal Responsibility and Changing Behaviour, points out that NHS spending on obesity-related disease has risen.

"The main drivers - poor diet and a sedentary lifestyle - are largely outside the direct influence of the NHS," it says.

It suggests a number of policies such as a national sports drive along the lines of the successful Active Australia strategy, and lifestyle lessons in schools.

Tax 'life-saving'

A new tax or the extension of VAT is proposed for some dairy products, fast food and sweets.

"This would be a signal to producers as well as consumers and serve more broadly as a signal to society that nutritional content in food is important," says the document.

Last year doctors at the British Medical Association (BMA) debated a proposal to impose the full 17.5% VAT rate on a wider range of high-fat foods such as biscuits, cakes and processed meals.

The full 17.5% rate is already charged on some foods including fizzy drinks, crisps and heated burgers.

The British Medical Journal recently claimed a 'fat tax' could help prevent 1,000 premature deaths from heart disease every year in the UK.

Plans opposed

Martin Paterson, of the Food and Drink Federation, said a fat tax would hit lower income families who already spend a higher proportion of their income on food and drink.

He said: "Consumers will rightly feel patronised by "top-down" messages based on the idea that they can't think for themselves and need to be taxed into weight-loss.

"The idea that any particular food is bad for you is out of date and simplistic. A balanced diet can include snacks and treats - moderation is the key."

Tim Yeo, Shadow Shadow Health and Education Secretary, said: "The government's approach to tackle the problems of obesity, like their approach to all public health issues, has been haphazard and has lacked coherence.

"The Department of Health has announced a consultation paper on public health, the Treasury has commissioned Derek Wanless to look into matters, including public health, whilst Number 10's Strategy Unit have been working on yet another tax - the fat tax."
 
The article you posted there from the BBC is from February 2004 when it was revealed by The Times that the idea had been mooted. The government admitted that the idea had come up but was discarded. The story is at:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3502053.stm

The idea of a fat tax is back in the news because of a new paper published by researchers at Oxford University. The BBC have the story at:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6291072.stm

The bit in that story that states

But the idea was dismissed in 2004 by former prime minister Tony Blair as too suggestive of a "nanny state".

is a reference to the earlier story you quoted.
 
Originally posted by Kathy@Jul 12 2007, 09:00 AM
I know, but I like cream cakes, Lee :(

I also feel that some people can only afford to buy food that is cheaper, and perhaps eat less healthy foods due to their finances. I am not sure why they should be punished financially. If people like eating fattening foods surely they will buy them anyway and perhaps get themselves into debt or deeper debt. I really don't think taxing is the answer, but making the healthier foods cheaper, and educating people rather than financially punishing them.
Fruits and vegetables are very cheap.
 
On BBc breakfast this morning a man commented that if people dont know by now that cream cakes are worse for you than fruit then they deserve to be fat, quality comment!!!
 
Originally posted by PDJ@Jul 12 2007, 11:40 AM

Fruits and vegetables are very cheap.
I agree Paul, but some people don't know how to cook many vegetables and are still not sure at the health implications of eating fruit and veg over burgers and chips. I have been watching that programme about how some parents are literally killing their kids by feeding them junk food. These people don't need taxing, they need educating and require help with learning about nutrition.
 
My father-in-law, supposedly a well educated and intelligent man, believes that a kebab is healthy because it's meat and comes served with a salad :what:
 



some parents are literally killing their kids by feeding them junk food. These people don't need taxing, they need educating and require help with learning about nutrition.

unfortuanatly not everyone is fit to be a parent

and as many dont want to learn and or dont work

neither education or tax will do anything to stop obesity

mind you kathy has healthy eating done your figure much good :D :D
 
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