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We don't know yet if the new approach is entirely fair because as EC1 points out we haven't got enough data yet, but we do know that the old system was not fair and wasn't working. Where was the fairness in a race that higher weighted horses couldn't win? And what was good for racing about having as its main event a race that good horses avoided?

The big exception is Red Rum, who was the greatest horse in the history of the Grand National, yet he couldn't win anywhere else (ok, he did win as a 2yo, but even that was at Liverpool!). After several attempts L'Escargot could only beat him when his mark was reduced and he was getting some weight. But maybe the rules of thumb used for lengths and pounds, designed with other races in mind, meant that for the purposes of the National he got too much weight off and Red Rum was then left with an impossible task?

<blockquote data-quote="Grey" data-source="post: 2520075" data-attributes="member: 65112">We don&#039;t know yet if the new approach is entirely fair because as EC1 points out we haven&#039;t got enough data yet, but we do know that the old system was not fair and wasn&#039;t working. Where was the fairness in a race that higher weighted horses couldn&#039;t win? And what was good for racing about having as its main event a race that good horses avoided?The big exception is Red Rum, who was the greatest horse in the history of the Grand National, yet he couldn&#039;t win anywhere else (ok, he did win as a 2yo, but even that was at Liverpool!). After several attempts L&#039;Escargot could only beat him when his mark was reduced and he was getting some weight. But maybe the rules of thumb used for lengths and pounds, designed with other races in mind, meant that for the purposes of the National he got too much weight off and Red Rum was then left with an impossible task?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Grey, post: 2520075, member: 65112"] We don't know yet if the new approach is entirely fair because as EC1 points out we haven't got enough data yet, but we do know that the old system was not fair and wasn't working. Where was the fairness in a race that higher weighted horses couldn't win? And what was good for racing about having as its main event a race that good horses avoided? The big exception is Red Rum, who was the greatest horse in the history of the Grand National, yet he couldn't win anywhere else (ok, he did win as a 2yo, but even that was at Liverpool!). After several attempts L'Escargot could only beat him when his mark was reduced and he was getting some weight. But maybe the rules of thumb used for lengths and pounds, designed with other races in mind, meant that for the purposes of the National he got too much weight off and Red Rum was then left with an impossible task? [/QUOTE]

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