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Orfevre's Japan Derby was won in a time of 2m 30.5secs, so any suggestion that he's run on ground equating to our 'soft' is well wide of the mark. Not saying he won't act on it, but I am saying it's guessing to presume he will.
Looks a race to avoid completely for betting purposes, imo.

[QUOTE="reet hard, post: 2397843, member: 65927"] Orfevre's Japan Derby was won in a time of 2m 30.5secs, so any suggestion that he's run on ground equating to our 'soft' is well wide of the mark. Not saying he won't act on it, but I am saying it's guessing to presume he will. Looks a race to avoid completely for betting purposes, imo. [/QUOTE]

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