Public Liability Insurance

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Can anyone recommend an insurance company who deals with this? we are going to be running a pet supplies stall at various shows this year & have been told we need public liability ins,

It has also been recommended that we get fire/theft/cancelation ins to shrug::
 
Just key in "public liability" and "compare" into Google, there are plenty of sites you can visit to find what you want.
 
Unsure how the British insurance market works, but most of the commerical risk lines of business in Australia will only deal directly with insurance brokers.

I'd recommend you ring these people up www.biba.org.uk

They will point you in the direction of a qualified insurance broker who specialises in Liability/Commercial Risk products.

If you deal with a broker, only ever deal with those that are apart of an affiliate, such as the British Institute of Broking (in Australia its the National Insurance Brokers Association). These brokers are subject to the rules of The Institute, and all brokers are qualified to deal with the public having done college courses.
 
Unless you are a sizeable corporate, or say a firework manufacturer, insurance brokers are a thing of the past in the UK. Comparison sites or direct both initially on the internet are the way to go.
 
Originally posted by Grand Armee@Jan 20 2008, 09:58 PM
Unsure how the British insurance market works,
Allow me to enlighten you.

First you ring a freephone number and it gets answered straight away, or your email is returned within 5 minutes if that's your preferred modus operandi. You think about it, and sign up to all sorts of good sounding things, and usually feel a sense of security and protection. :luv:

Then you come to claim on it (which is when things get tricky)

You have to ring a different number now, which transpires to be a disused lighthouse off the coast of Newfoundland and is staffed by a one armed, one eyed, deaf man who only works every other Thursday afternoon.

You'll be required to key in all sorts of numbers, (account number, policy number, DoB, shoe size, personal best time for the 25 metres breastroke, and as many irrelevant and awkward questions as possible) "so that we can handle your call more efficiently".

Eventually an automated American voice will tell you "I'm sorry. I did not recognise that last instruction", and triggers a default to the start the whole wretched sequence again. After hundreds of attempts to break through this trial by numbers, you will eventually get a ring tone. Don't be fooled. Another American voice will interupt it. Again, don't make the mistake of starting a conversation with this pre-recorded loop as soon as you first hear a human voice. Not only is this embarrasing, but its primarily designed to build up your hopes, and then crush them. Pyschological warfare you see, they're trying to break down your morale and will to go on.

This voice will tell you that "all our operators are busy at the moment" (that's the one armed, one eyed man remember) "but your call is important to us. Please hold until one of our operators becomes available". Now don't swear at it whatever you do. Some systems have key word recognition and will terminate your call this point if they hear certain obscenities.

About 6 months later you get through, and the retired lighthouse keeper will ask your all the same questions that you've spent the previous Autumn keying into the phone pad, before tellingl you that your claim really needs to be handled by his Ulan Bator office.

Six months later, you'll get through to them having endured the same series of obstacles, quite possibly encountering the "all our offices are closed at present, and only open every new moon" message. Eventually, they'll send you out a form, which you dutifully fill in, and then hear nothing from then again.

In the meantime you'll get your renewal reminder and discover that your premium has gone through the roof. At this point you'll threaten to switch your business and they'll make some coded threat about not settling your claim. Foolishly you acquiesce and remain a customer and set about having to chase the claim down yourself.

The next time you get through to Ulan Bator, you'll be informed that they've had a corproate restructure, or been taken over and this has resulted in a rationalisation of their claims handling section. It has now been out sourced to a detention camp in Cuba.

The person who was dealing with your claim "isn't available" when you get through to them, but will "ring you back as soon as they return". The problem with this though, is that their unavailability is down to the fact they no longer work there. After a few more months you grow suspicious and try them again.

Eventually you get through, and are told that an accessor will contact you, and that you had better have a 100% cast iron memory recall, and enough evidence to prosecute a corrupt jockey trial to back up your claim. Even if you have, they normally invoke some hidden clause which was contained on the reverse side of the polciy in invisible ink, which you were advised to read under a flourescent light through telepathy. Some of the more crafty firms conceal this message in Egyptian hyrographics cunningly disguised into the corporate crest at the top of their policy.

This basically entitles you to next to nothing, but as a gesture of goodwill they agree to pay you out 5% of your claim in 36 months time.


I hope that helps you Grand Armee
 
Those type of policies are the typical personal lines business of travel, home and contents and motor vehicle. Where yes, you will ring a person in a call centre (usually a backpacker with no industry knowledge, who reads off a bit of scripted paper), and it will take upwards of 15 minutes to speak to a "real" person. Not that those real people are qualified enough to give good advice anyway. :brows:

As for insurance brokers being a thing of the past, hate to say but most business' use them. Afterall if they make the mistake you sue them, for giving the wrong advice.
 
What I was saying TS was that rather than asking a bunch of people you don't know for recommendations on something like public liability insurance for a business concern it might be more prudent to ask a professional.

There are still plenty of insurance brokers about and they are widely used, despite what you may think. Firms like Academy and A-Plan for example are expanding quite a lot in this area.
 
Presumably you have a Business Account with your Bank? If it's a major High Street concern, they should be able to sort you out with PLI, and possibly cut you a favourable deal.

You will doubtless get it cheaper elsewhere, but if you do need to make a claim, it's likely to get sorted out much faster and more satisfactorily.
 
Hi

No not a market trader as I've found out! its classed as event insurance, I've managed to find a local insurance company that will cover me for up to 15 events per year for around £150, I'm still looking around as I will not be trading until April/May time,

Don't get me started about business accounts :angy: :rant:
Don't have a drivers license or a passport = nightmare to open an account :suspect:

For now I have opened a savings account (they let me do that shrug:: )

I will run it out of there, as most of my income will be cash it is fairly easy just to put it in there.
 
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