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As long as you're sure it was balloted out, yes.

I'm in the same boat but forgot to note who I backed it with! I'll need to trawl through my accounts. Maybe the bet won't be settled until the entire race is.

Edit - Bet365 refunded my stake.
 
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Desert Orchid said:
As long as you're sure it was balloted out, yes.

I'm in the same boat but forgot to note who I backed it with! I'll need to trawl through my accounts. Maybe the bet won't be settled until the entire race is.

Edit - Bet365 refunded my stake.
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Yes,I checked on the bha site.betfair settled it as a loser.
When I've got a proper signal I will get on to them.
 
“It is totally unacceptable for betting firms to treat ballotted out horses in big handicaps as ante post losers…….”

Can’t copy it but that’s how it starts.
 
barjon said:
“It is totally unacceptable for betting firms to treat ballotted out horses in big handicaps as ante post losers…….”

Can’t copy it but that’s how it starts.
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Absoloutely. Why is this happening?

As for as long as I can remember it's always been the case bookmakers should refund stakes on horses balloted out..i.e not making the cut.

It shouldn't be the punters job to find out either.

There should be systems in place to make stakes being refunded an automatic process.

We can't all individually contact the BHA to find out if X horse was balloted out each and everytime. Its not practical.
 
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Surely that's the risk of a/p betting.
You takes the price, you takes the risk!
 
Frankel said:
Surely that's the risk of a/p betting.
You takes the price, you takes the risk!
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If a horse is balloted out according to the rules they are supposed to refund the stakes though.
 
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According to betfair rules and regs balloted horses stakes returned.
When I press "get in touch" nothing happens I do have a dodgy signal so I will have to try again.
 
barjon said:
“It is totally unacceptable for betting firms to treat ballotted out horses in big handicaps as ante post losers…….”

Can’t copy it but that’s how it starts.
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There is an exception to the rule.
 
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Frankel said:
Surely that's the risk of a/p betting.
You takes the price, you takes the risk!
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In the big scheme of things, yes, but there's also the rule, if that's the right word, that the horse has to have had the chance to run. If it's balloted out that chance has been taken from it.

Early ante-post bets for, say, the Grand National don't have that rule. At that point it's usually worded "entered or not". I think it's only once the entries are known that the balloting out rule kicks in.

Happy to stand corrected on any of that.
 
A horse can't be balloted out unless he's entered. Betfair well known for this sort of thing. When you finally get one of their' experienced' staff you find out they're computer experts and know nothing about betting. Good luck.
 
I was on the BBC news site and pressed back up and it went onto betfair for some reason and I scrolled down and pressed help and got straight through and they sorted it and paid me.
Result.
 
New Question.

How have you reacted to the revised Terms and Conditions from William Hill ?

A huge tome that I doubt is fully understood by most punters but will generally be accepted without understanding. I worked in a in an environment where complex agreements were common but I always had the option of getting advice from lawyers. It would cost a small fortune to get one to check this volume.
 
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