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Perhaps - but given it's a forum that would be a matter of debate.


I've also only just turned 30 and followed racing since my early 20's during which time Cecil has only been in the limelight for the last couple of seasons so unraced Cecil hotpots are not something i'm used to.


This time last year Workforce was still being talking up as a once raced maiden winner - and that was at two, over 7f. It happens.


It would be unlike you to be condescending Bully so i'm sure it wasn't intentional but fobbing people's comments off as if they're whimsical flights of fancy because you don't agree could appear that way.... If you catch my drift...


5 + 3 = ?
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