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I think you're arguing against yourself a bit now

The EU is a centralised redistributive organ. It's why so many free market lemmings hate it

You saw a brief snippet as to how quickly nationalist tensions can rise very quickly in Greece

The point I'm making is that economic injustice (genuine or imaginary, it doesn't always matter which) feeds nationalism. It's right up there alongside religion.

What you're clearly saying here is that greater prosperity is the key to arresting nationalist tendancies.

"prosperity is increasing right round the world which is the key to suppressing nationalism".

What I'm suggetsing is that this greater prosperity doesn't suppress nationalism, but the distribution of that prosperity does. If it's uneven and promotes division, then it naturally creates grievances and especially so if there is a perception of cause and effect. This kind of fertile environment becomes a breeding ground for rabid nationalism. So how do we dampen this fire down? We redistribute - the EU. It's not the generation of wealth therefore that suppresses nationalism, but the way we organise to ensure that its distributed

It's a similar concept to how the welfare benefit system works for those who have the most to lose in society and not those at the very bottom who would otherwise turn to widespread civil disorder to survive

<blockquote data-quote="Warbler" data-source="post: 2470103" data-attributes="member: 65228">I think you&#039;re arguing against yourself a bit nowThe EU is a centralised redistributive organ. It&#039;s why so many free market lemmings hate itYou saw a brief snippet as to how quickly nationalist tensions can rise very quickly in Greece The point I&#039;m making is that economic injustice (genuine or imaginary, it doesn&#039;t always matter which) feeds nationalism. It&#039;s right up there alongside religion.What you&#039;re clearly saying here is that greater prosperity is the key to arresting nationalist tendancies. &quot;prosperity is increasing right round the world which is the key to suppressing nationalism&quot;.What I&#039;m suggetsing is that this greater prosperity doesn&#039;t suppress nationalism, but the distribution of that prosperity does. If it&#039;s uneven and promotes division, then it naturally creates grievances and especially so if there is a perception of cause and effect. This kind of fertile environment becomes a breeding ground for rabid nationalism. So how do we dampen this fire down? We redistribute - the EU. It&#039;s not the generation of wealth therefore that suppresses nationalism, but the way we organise to ensure that its distributedIt&#039;s a similar concept to how the welfare benefit system works for those who have the most to lose in society and not those at the very bottom who would otherwise turn to widespread civil disorder to survive</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Warbler, post: 2470103, member: 65228"] I think you're arguing against yourself a bit now The EU is a centralised redistributive organ. It's why so many free market lemmings hate it You saw a brief snippet as to how quickly nationalist tensions can rise very quickly in Greece The point I'm making is that economic injustice (genuine or imaginary, it doesn't always matter which) feeds nationalism. It's right up there alongside religion. What you're clearly saying here is that greater prosperity is the key to arresting nationalist tendancies. "prosperity is increasing right round the world which is the key to suppressing nationalism". What I'm suggetsing is that this greater prosperity doesn't suppress nationalism, but the distribution of that prosperity does. If it's uneven and promotes division, then it naturally creates grievances and especially so if there is a perception of cause and effect. This kind of fertile environment becomes a breeding ground for rabid nationalism. So how do we dampen this fire down? We redistribute - the EU. It's not the generation of wealth therefore that suppresses nationalism, but the way we organise to ensure that its distributed It's a similar concept to how the welfare benefit system works for those who have the most to lose in society and not those at the very bottom who would otherwise turn to widespread civil disorder to survive [/QUOTE]

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