I have to say I agree with you that they are crap. I paid for installation of SKY (about a year before I came out here to Gib) in the local Dixons & took a day off work to wait for the intallation guy. I had to wait for an appointment as I had requested a Panasonic set-top box as the Amstrad ones they were providing were shite & they kept having problems with them. The guy turns up, spins me a line about giving me a "tip" so that I can watch Box Office movies for nothing (as many as I want) by wiring up a battery to the back of the box, blah blah. Then he goes outside to fit the dish & promptly told me that I can't get a signal from the front of the house, it has to go on the back. Fine. Then he says that the dish needs to go on a pole too which he doesn't have in the van (although he should) & I will be charged extra for all the extra cabling used, as well as the aborted visit that day. So, I booked another appointment & told SKY I refused to pay for the first one, which they eventually accepted. Then I told them what the first guy had said; no problem, they said. Booked ANOTHER day off work & waited, again. In between, I mugged a SKY engineer of loads of cable (he was best mates with an old school friend so was happy to give us loads of free cabling) so I wouldn't have to pay the extra the first guy was on about. Second guy turns up, says the first guy should've had the pole & should've been able to do it the first time. Then he goes out the back & says that due to an extension we had on the back, they can't fit the dish at all as they would have to climb on a roof (it was about 10ft off the ground) & H&S wouldn't allow it. Then he said that the first guy should have told me this & tells me the only option I have is to contact a private satellite installer who will charge me around £200 for the privelege of installing SKY. Bugger that for a game of soldiers - my Dad lived 200 yards up the road with a full SKY package & the Racing Channel if I was desperate! After all that pollava it took me ages to cancel my contract & get back the deposit I had paid - the bastards tried to take a DD from my bank account too as well as not wanting to pay back what I had already paid! It took many irate trips to Dixons & long, long phonecalls to SKY (they are by far the worst when it comes to sitting in a phone queue) to eventually get it all sorted. I didn't have SKY either at the end of it!!