Smoking Bans

Are you in favour of banning smoking in public places

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  • NO

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I find it hard to fathom that statement. Roy Castle, the non-smoker died of lung cancer caused by playing in smoky jazz clubs.

I smoked for 7 years myself and quit when I realized the damage I was doing to myself. I am totally in favour of a ban and believe it should include all buildings. If you resent not being able to smoke where you like, tough. You could always quit or go outside and stop being so selfish.

I wonder how many of those studies were sponsored by the tobacco industry. I would wager most of them.
 
As a smoker, any hardship involved in having to walk outside to have a drag, is much more than made up for by being able to eat, drink and be merry in a clean atmosphere. No contest as far as I'm concerned.
 
I think I've made my thoughts on this matter plain in the past, but for anyone who missed it, the gist is that I'd like to not be overtaxed due to my habit, and I'd like cars banned as well, due to them polluting my atmosphere.

On the passive smoking thing - PDJ has a point with regard to industry sponsored studies, but omits to mention that all of the surveys which "prove" the point are sponsored by agencies with a vested interest to confirm the point they're making.
 
Sorry, simmo. That was an omission. Every study is commisioned by someone for a reason and they usually find exactly what they want to find. I still hate breathing in smoke though.

As a non driver, I like the car idea!!
 
I voted NO, but with some little hesitation. While I believe a total indoor smoking ban smacks of nanny-statism and interference, I think there is room for compromise. I wouldn't have any difficulty with smoking sections in pubs for instance.

In the jurisdiction where I live, a smoking ban was introduced 16 months ago and the effect on the licenced trade has been significant. Pubs have seen a 25% drop-off in trade -- and in County Cork alone over ninety pubs have closed down. The normal pub atmosphere has become a thing of the past and there is a definite shift towards drinking at home. Smoking customers (myself included) are just not prepared to go to the pub on a wet November night anbe obliged to stand outside the door to have a cigarette. Street trouble has also increased while tourism figures have been severely reduced.

There can be no justifying the benefits of smoking or passive inhalation but also there should be some arrangement made for those addicted to the weed. Sensible and compassionate compromise should be the way forward.
 
I'm in the middle here. I smoke, I like having a smoke in the pub but wish they had brought out such a ban 40 years ago so that maybe I would never have started. Im glad my daughter doesn't smoke and maybe a ban will ensure she, and any children she later has, never starts. I do sgree the effects of SHS are exaggerated though.
 
There is no ill in reducing alcohol consumption and public drunkeness in Ireland IB. If you are in doubt, take a look at any city in Ireland tonight -(Leaving results are out.)
 
I'm inclined to say yes, but I certainly wouldn't be adverse to segregated smoking areas. Anywhere that food is being served should most definitely be non-smoking - anyone who smokes around food is exceptionally rude & offensive to those eating in my view. I also find it unfair that one person having a smoke can ensure that 20 people stink of their cigarette smoke which again is unfair - I loathe smelling of an ashtray. My mum smokes & I find it hard when I stay with her as I resent my clothes smelling of cigarettes, to be fair though when I'm staying there she only lets people smoke in her kitchen which is at the back of the house, or outside, otherwise the smell can go upstairs whih I loathe.
 
All good points so far, i do have sympathy with people not wanting to reek of smoke and also smoking around food is out of order. Outside though i smoke where i want.
Ultimately my main gripe is the fact that smokers are seen as some sort of outcasts by a lot of people. Where i work, i`m seen as being unhealthy and someone who is endangering peoples health....a lot of the time by men who`s idea of a good night out is to drink as much as possible. Drinking is a far worse habit imo. I`d sooner ban alcohol than fags.
 
The smoking ban has been a tremendous success in the Republic.I would say at least 95% of the population are in favour.
Icebreaker -about the 90 pubs that closed down in Cork they cant have been much good if the smoking ban put them out of business.The idea of the pub is becoming very old fashioned-in Ireland there are now plenty of alternative ways to spend your leisure bucks.
 
Luke, I find that 95% figure truly astounding, and certainly not borne out by any vox-pop I have conducted amonst my cronies. Certainly among smokers, most people I have queried are in fact totally opposed to the ban.

Indeed, there is a 95% compliance rate. By way of the 3,000 euro fine for smoking, the smoking police visiting pubs incognito, and the freefone "hotline" to encourage grassing, the majority of the smoking population have been bullied into accepting the ban without revolt. But to say that 95% are fully in favour of it is IMHO very wide of the mark. To use a truly horrible analogy, there was also a 95% compliance among Jewish victims of the Holocaust ......... it doesn't infer that they agreed with it!.
 
Originally posted by Garney@Aug 17 2005, 11:40 AM
Icebreaker, Can all the ills you describe there be down to the smoking ban?
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Absolutely, Garney, I have no doubt whatsoever that the undeniable 25% fall-off in pub trade is a direct corollary of the smoking ban. There had not been drink price increases in the 12 months following the ban (in fact many pubs dropped prices to chase the diminishing pool of drinkers). No other reasons are apparent for the fall-off ............ and it has to be more than co-incidental.

Consequent to the smoking ban, we have seen a sea-change in drinking habits over here. The off-licence sector has jumped to 20% of total sales as people (myself included) cannot see the point of visiting a pub for the privilege of standing outside the door on a cold and wet night. Staying in seems to be the new "going-out"! People are discovering the pleasures of a comfortable evening at home with the freedom to have a cigarette whenever they want. Add in the modern availability of 100's of TV channels, DVD etc and it becomes a no-contest as far as the smoker is concerned.
 
I thought Ireland would be dead against the smoking ban, but it looks as if it has been a resounding success in many areas!

Personally, I cannot stand the smell of smoke, but am quite happy to sit in a non smoking part of a pub and am happy that smokers enjoy their fags away from me. In hotels I always insist on a non smoking room, as even if there has not been anyone in there for a couple of days, the rooms stink. I can smell smoke if people on the floor below me light up.

My Dad gave up smoking 4 years ago after major heart surgery, and he wishes he had given up alot sooner as he has added years back onto his life. There is nothing like undergoing a 7 hour operation to make you fight that urge. :blink: Difficult I know, but it did the trick for him. He loves the idea of no smoking area's now, and if anyone smokes near him in his offices at Newbury, they get one of his looks! It seems to do the trick. :)
 
I'm marginally oin favour of a ban, although I'm a light smoker myself.

This business about Roy Castle - the form of lung cancer from which he suffered is, I believe, not one associated with cigarette smoking.
 
Originally posted by Euronymous@Aug 17 2005, 11:57 AM
As a smoker myself i resent not being to smoke where i want. Especially as the dangers of passive smoking is media contrived bullshit.
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And as a non-smoker I resent having to inhale other peoples bodily waste products.

I am so thankful that I've had six weeks off work. Passive smoking (and actual smoking) is incredibly harmful to pregnant ladies and can cause a miscarriage, especially in the first 12 weeks. I'm going back to work in September until my maternity leave starts in January but I'm having serious doubts as to if I'll last that long. Passive smoking puts my baby at risk of premature birth or a low birth weight. I cannot stand the thought of my unborn babys health being compromised by those who cannot limit their fag intake to their home.
 
Originally posted by Muttley@Aug 17 2005, 05:24 PM
and if anyone smokes near him in his offices at Newbury, they get one of his looks!
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Interesting.

Smoking in the workplace is actually already against the law...
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Mutley, it is the racecourse office, and you would be amazed at how many jockeys, lads, lasses and trainers go into the office puffing heavily on a fag! B) I put it down to the stress.
 
This time last year, I was on holiday in Spain getting very close to an inordinately attractive Irish bar owner named Susan on the Costa del Sol. She was bemoaning the smoking ban back home so I find it interesting reading about the success of the ban in the Republic.
 
Originally posted by an capall@Aug 17 2005, 07:51 PM
The stress of meeting your family?
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Certainly a possibility An. My Dad always tries to be happy and cheerful and plays his Irish music extremely loud, much to the annoyance of The Jockey Club security staff who decided to hide his CD's recently much to Dad's annoyance. The air was quite blue until the CD's were duly returned. B)
 
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